topic SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha in Operating System - OpenVMS

SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Jan van den Boogaard — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:25:10 GMT

Hi vms folks,

I did a test upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 on my test Alpha, and noticed that the SYSUAF quota for the SYSTEM and DEFAULT accounts are not changed to the values that they have on a newly installed V8.3 system, but instead keep the values they had under 7.3-2.

There is however a new SYSUAF.TEMPLATE with timestamp 29-JUN-2006 18:21:48.42.

E.g. SYSTEM PFLQUOTA stays 100000, but is 700000 on new 8.3 system. DEFAULT account BYTLM 64000 versus 128000, PGFLQUOTA 50000 versus 256000.

Would it make sense to update the SYSUAF quota to the default 8.3 values ?
I could find anything about this in the manuals...

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Dean McGorrill — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:22:53 GMT

whats your test system? probably would hurt to bump them up.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Hoff — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:38:19 GMT

Do change the quota values upwards, to at least the minimums. Consider selecting yet higher values, depending on the configuration and the particular application requirements.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Jan van den Boogaard — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:44:18 GMT

Dean,
the test system is a ES45 model 2B with 8 GB memory and 4 CPU's. Porduction systems the same.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Ian Miller. — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:54:40 GMT

It is certainly worth reviewing the quotas.

The following DCL is useful for this
http://dcl.openvms.org/stories.php?story=05/07/28/2894075

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Carson Hovey — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:04:08 GMT

I suspect one reason that SYSUAF is not automatically changed during upgrade is that you might have other cluster members which are running a different version of OpenVMS.

Also, remember that the sysgen PQL_M* parameters will override sysuaf settings so you may already be getting the larger quotas.

You can use f$getjpi() to see what your process really got and compare that to the values in sysuaf (and sysgen) to see if you really need to change anything.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Dean McGorrill — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:09:15 GMT

that was supposed be "wouldn't hurt to bump them up". nice system there! Dean

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Jan van den Boogaard — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:03:34 GMT

Thank you replyiers,

"PQL_M* parameters will override sysuaf settings" : yes, thats true, but for clarity reasons I would like to modify the quota to the new values with a dcl script.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Jan van den Boogaard — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:54:18 GMT

Update commands:

mcr authorize modify system /astlm=300 /bytlm=256000 /enqlm=4000 /fillm=128 /pgflquota=700000 /tqelm=100 /wsdef=4096 /wsquota=8192

mcr authorize modify default /astlm=300 /bytlm=128000 /enqlm=4000 /fillm=128 /pgflquota=256000 /tqelm=100 /wsdef=4096 /wsquota=8192

After these commands, it will be clear for the production system managers what the quota will be for the users SYSTEM and the users created from DEFAULT.

Re: SYSUAF quota not changed after upgrade from 7.3-2 Alpha to 8.3 Alpha

Jan van den Boogaard — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:55:40 GMT

Topic closed. Thanx all.