topic Re: interactive login issue in Operating System - OpenVMS

interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:47:53 GMT

We've got a three node VAX cluster, we are getting:

$ set host vmsb

Username: SYSTEM
Password:
License has terminated
%REM-S-END, control returned to node VMSE::

Do you know which DEC license would be responsible? We are looking for cables currently to connect a terminal, but I was wondering if you kind folks know which one of these would be it (these are taken from a system which does NOT have an issue):

------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version --
Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Release Termination
CA-ARCHIVER-CPU ACCESS-TEC 7900 F 0 0.0 (none) (none)
A1-DIST-SHR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-CLIENT-ALPHA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-CLIENT-VAX DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-NT-CLIENT-USER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-OMT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-SERVER-ALPHA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ABS-SERVER-VAX DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ACMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ACMS-REM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ACMS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ADA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ADA-PDO DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-CORE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-MAIL-DW-CLI DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-MAIL-SERVER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-MAIL-VT-CLI DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-MAIL-WAN-SE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-STARTER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-UI-AMER-ENG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1-UI-ENGLISH DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ALLIN1CLSVR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
BASIC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
BOOKBROWSER DEC 0 100 0 0.0 1-FEB-1995 (none)
C DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CARTRIDGE-SERVER-V DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CDD-PLUS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CDDADMIN DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CDDADMIN-RTO DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
COBOL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
COBOL-DBMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
CXX-V DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DATA-DISTRIBUTOR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-DB2 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-DBMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-EDASQL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-ORACLE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-PCDATA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-SQLNK DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB-GATEWAY-SYBASE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DB2VB DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DBI-DEV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DBI-INT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DBI-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DBMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DBMS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DCE-APP-DEV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DCE-CDS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DCE-PKT-PRIV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DCE-RT-SVC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DCOM-MIDL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECINTACT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 30-OCT-2006
DECINTACT-REM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 30-OCT-2006
DECINTACT-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 30-OCT-2006
DECOMNI-API DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECOMNI-MMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECOSAP-AP DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECOSAP-H1 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECPS-AC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECPS-CP DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECPS-DC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECPS-PA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECRAM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECSCHEDULER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 30-JUL-2008
DECSCHEDULER-EXEC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECTRACE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECTRACE-COLLECTOR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECTRACE-MONITOR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECTRACE-REPORTER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DECTRACE-RUNTIME DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DESKTOP-ACMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DFG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DFS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DFS-CLIENT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DQS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DSNLINK DEC 0 F 0 0.0 (none) (none)
DTM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DTR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DVNETEND DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DVNETEXT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DVNETRTG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DW-MOTIF DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
DW-SNA-3270-TE-VMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-APP-SERV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-BISYNC-PACKAGE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-BISYNC-SERV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-OFTP-PACKAGE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-OFTP-SERV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-TRANSLATION-SE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-X400-PACKAGE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
EDI-X400-SERV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
ENCRYPTION DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FILEBRIDGE-BSE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FMS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FORMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FORMS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
FORTRAN DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GKS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GKS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GKS3D DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GKS3D-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GSE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
GWLM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
HSM-SERVER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
HSM-USER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
INSTANTSQL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
INTL-LEXICON-AMERI DEC 0 0 0 0.0 (none) (none)
LSE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MAILBUS-400-API DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MAILBUS-400-MR-GAT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MAILBUS-400-MTA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MAILBUS-DIRECTORY- DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MAILWORKS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MESSAGE-ROUTER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MESSAGE-ROUTER-X.4 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MMOV-DV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MMOV-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MR-PROGRAMMER-KIT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
MR-VMSMAIL-GATEWAY DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
NS-COMMERCE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
NS-COMMERCE-DOMEST DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
NS-COMMUNICATIONS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
OPENVMS-ALPHA-USER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
OPENVMS-GALAXY DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
P.S.I. DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PASCAL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PCA DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PHIGS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PHIGS-RUNTIME DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
POLY-CONSOLEMGR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
POLY-SWDAGT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
POLY-SWDCON DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PWASMACCC01.03 DEC 4700 0 100 0.0 (none) (none)
PWLMDOSCC06.00 DEC 1000 0 100 0.0 (none) (none)
PWXXWINAT07.00 DEC 1000 0 100 0.0 (none) (none)
RALLY DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RALLY-DEV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RALLY-MOTIF DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RALLY-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-ELN-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-INT-UPG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-INTERACTIVE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-RUNTIME DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDB-UPG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDBACCESS-BASE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDBACCESS-ORACLE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDBEXPERT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RDBTRANS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RMSJNL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RSM-CLIENT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
RSM-SERVER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SAVE-SET-MANAGER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SERDB-V DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SLS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SLS-ACS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SLS-MGR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SLS-REMOTE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-3270-DSPI DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-3270-SVCS-DEV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-3270-SVCS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-3270-TE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-API DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-APPC-LU6.2 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-DOMAIN-GATEWAY DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-DTF-SVR DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-DTF-UTL DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-GATEWAY-CT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-GATEWAY-ST DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-PRE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-RJE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-SERVER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SNA-VMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SQLMM-DEV DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SQLMM-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SW-RAID5 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SW-RAID5-STG DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
SW-RAID5-STG-USER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
TDMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
TDMS-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
TEAMLINKS-A1CONN DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
TMRA1-EN DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
TSM DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) (none)
UCX DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
UCX-IP-CLIENT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
UCX-IP-NFS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
UCX-IP-RT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VAX-2780-3780PE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VAX-VMS DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VAXCLUSTER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VAXCLUSTER-CONSOLE DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VAXSET DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VMS-USER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VMSCLUSTER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VOLSHAD DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
VOX DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) (none)
VTX-WWW-GW DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
X25 DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
X500-ADMIN-FACILIT DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
X500-DIRECTORY-SER DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 31-OCT-2008
PMDF INNOSOFT 0 0 1 0.0 30-JUN-2004 (none)
DOCUMENT TTI 10000 0 1 0.0 (none) (none)

Re: interactive login issue

labadie_1 — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:52:10 GMT

Welcome to the Openvms forum

Your licence VAX-VMS has 100 points, so this allows one connection.
Your vms-user has also 100 points, so the same.

Add some points with another licence.

Re: interactive login issue

labadie_1 — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:53:47 GMT

You should be able to do

mc sysman set env/node=vmsb
do sh licence/charge

and post the results here.

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:07:39 GMT

$ mc sysman set env/node=vmsb
%SYSMAN-I-ENV, current command environment:
Individual nodes: VMSB
Username SYSTEM will be used on nonlocal nodes

SYSMAN> do sh license/charge
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node VMSB
%SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node VMSB
-SMI-E-NOSERVER, SMI Server not running in target node
SYSMAN> do sh license
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node VMSB
%SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node VMSB
-SMI-E-NOSERVER, SMI Server not running in target node
SYSMAN> exit

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:37:30 GMT

We were able to find a serial cable that works. We've got console now. We are trying to get a report of license to file so that we can compare it to the other nodes. Looking at the display as it flashed before me, I think the licenses look the same as with the node that I can connect to (i.e. the licenses look just like above... no standouts with "expired" or stale dates).

I'll post the output when I have it, but any ideas?

Re: interactive login issue

Steven Schweda — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:44:59 GMT

If a local terminal works without complaint,
but SET HOST into it fails, then I'd look
closely at the DECnet stuff, DVNET*.

Otherwise, knowing nothing, I'd probably say
REPLY /ENABLE, and see if I got a helpful
OPCOM message when someone tried to get in
with a SET HOST.

Re: interactive login issue

Robert Gezelter — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:45:55 GMT

Adam,

I would also check if there is a problem with the boot sequence on that node.

Various errors can cause the startup process to terminate in an unclean way, the node may appear to be up, but may not have completed startup completely.

I would check licenses, but I would also be interested in seeing a log of the actual complete bootstrap sequence.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:27:42 GMT

OK, here is the issue. It seems our campus licenses (just on this node of a 3-node cluster) won't take:

$ show time
9-NOV-2008 11:06:04
$ $ license disable/log VMS-USER/all
%LICENSE-I-DISABLED, VMS-USER A0703-CAMPUSWIDE-2063 has been disabled
%LICENSE-I-DISABLED, VMS-USER A0704-CAMPUSWIDE-2063 has been disabled
%LICENSE-I-DISABLED, VMS-USER A0705-CAMPUSWIDE-2063 has been disabled
%LICENSE-I-DISABLED, VMS-USER A0406-CAMPUSWIDE-2063 has been disabled
%LICENSE-I-DISABLED, VMS-USER AMA-VMS-CAMPUSWIDE-SEP08 has been disabled
$ $ LICENSE REGISTER VMS-USER -
_$ /ISSUER=DEC -
_$ /AUTHORIZATION=AMA-VMS-CAMPUSWIDE-SEP08 -
_$ /PRODUCER=DEC -
_$ /UNITS=0 -
_$ /TERMINATION_DATE=31-OCT-2008 -
_$ /ACTIVITY=CONSTANT=100 -
_$ /CHECKSUM=ADJUSTED-TO-POST-IN-ITRC
%LICENSE-F-DUPREC, license is already registered
$ $ license unload/log VMS-USER /producer=DEC
%LICENSE-W-NOENT, no license was loaded for this product - DEC VMS-USER
$ $ license enable VMS-USER /auth=AMA-VMS-CAMPUSWIDE-SEP08 /producer=DEC
$ $ license load VMS-USER /producer=DEC
%LICENSE-W-TERM, VMS-USER AMA-VMS-CAMPUSWIDE-SEP08 License has terminated

It says the licenses are terminated. Any ideas?

Re: interactive login issue

Steven Schweda — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:34:50 GMT

> $ show time
> 9-NOV-2008 11:06:04

Around here, it's still 2007.

alp $ show time
9-NOV-2007 11:32:47

Perhaps your latest DST adjustment was a bit
excessive.

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:37:09 GMT

HA! I confirmed that bad boy 3 times.... stared it straight in the face and said, yup that date looks good. Well I guess it never hurts to ask a dumb question.

Thanks for you help. This forum rocks! Points coming.

Re: interactive login issue

Steven Schweda — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:52:45 GMT

> [...] dumb question.

You call _this_ dumb? Nah. The really
stupid questions are the ones like, "I did
something and it didn't work. What's wrong?"
These are often posted in the wrong forum,
too, which makes them even more annoying.
I'd take someone who'd include the "show
time" transcript _any_ time, in exchange for
a no-brainer who can't describe actions and
symptoms.

Date blindness is a recurring problem. I
have a similar problem with code blindness.

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:56:35 GMT

To round out the case documentation; this link was helpful in understanding VMS license commands:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_9694.html

Re: interactive login issue

Hoff — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:32:16 GMT

I have licensing information and LMF-related troubleshooting posted, starting at:

http://64.223.189.234/node/31

and at:

http://64.223.189.234/node/118

or by using the licensing keyword at:

http://64.223.189.234/taxonomy/term/28

There's a write-up on registering PAKs when LMF won't let you log into the system, as well.

Re: interactive login issue

DECxchange — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:22:45 GMT

Hello,
Many times, some VMS licenses have key termination dates. This is shown on your paper license PAK. PAK stands for Product Authorization Key. Forgive me if you already know some of the things I exoplain here.

In the case of trial licenses and your campuswide licenses, they have a key terination date. If you can find your original license PAK, or perhaps your license CD, you will find the date in which your licenses will terminate.

Also, you can find this out by typing at the VMS prompt,
$ license issue
where is one of the license names listed avove, e.g.,
$ license issue ada

This will list out all of the parameters on your paper PAK, which would be all the info you nead to load a license via the license management utility.

So, I would find out the expiration date of your campuswide licenses and be sure to get renewed before then, as you serendiptiously discovered here! ;)

Anyway, you probably know by now that your error message at login was due to the VMS license being terminated due to the date being wrong on your system, which consequently, was set for AFTER your PAK termination date!

Good luck!

Re: interactive login issue

Adam Garsha — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:29:06 GMT

yes, once I was pointed to the date descrepancy all was well and access regained (after correcting the date).

Re: interactive login issue

John Gillings — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:05:25 GMT

Adam,
Further comments about PAK termination dates -

$ SHOW LICENSE/WARN=days

will generate a warning if any PAKs will expire within the number of days you specify:

$ show lic/warn=60

Active licenses on node TEST:

------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version --
Product Producer Units PCL Activ Version Release Termination
C HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 9-JAN-2008
COBOL HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 9-JAN-2008
CXX-V HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 22-JAN-2008
FORMS HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 22-JAN-2008
LSE HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 9-JAN-2008
OPENVMS-I64-MCOE HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 22-JAN-2008
PASCAL HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 9-JAN-2008
VAXSET HP 0 1 0 0.0 (none) 9-JAN-2008
%SHOW-I-TERMIMM, 5 licenses have terminated or will terminate in 60 days

More importantly, multiple PAKs for the same product name are combined into a single "live" PAK. Sometimes the meaning of combine is fairly intuitive, like UNITS are added together. However, for dates (termination, product release etc...), the EARLIEST date is used in the combined PAK.
Thus a single terminated PAK can "contaminate" any number of unterminated PAKs. If you depend on any of the PAK types with termination dates, make sure you clean out your LMF of old, terminated, or near to termination PAKs whenever you register new PAKs.