topic Re: Enable copying between VMS servers in Operating System - OpenVMS

Enable copying between VMS servers

Jorge Cocomess — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:15:57 GMT

Greetings,

Besides, setting up proxy accounts on the VMS level and setting the host file. What else do I need to setup for users to be able to copy between VMS servers? This is a stand-alone VMS server environment. The version of VMS we're running is at 7.3-2 on ES45.

Please help.

Thank you in advance.

Happy Holidays!!

Jorge

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Steven Schweda — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:25:40 GMT

Copy _how_? DECnet? FTP? SCP?

What's a "host file"?

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Andy Bustamante — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:46:17 GMT

Since you mention proxy accounts, can I assume you want to use DECnet for copying? Do you have DECnet enabled on both systems? Are they in the same network (phase IV)? or do you have DECnet over IP enabled (phase V)?

Assuming a phase IV and DECnet available between two nodes:

$ copy node0"usera passwordb"::user_disk:[dir]file.dat node1"userb passwordb"::user_diskb:[dirb]fileb.dat

You can remove the node specification on the node you're executing the command from as well as device and directory. Configuring proxy will allow you to drop the user/password and avoid sending plain text passwords over the network.

Proxy accounts don't apply for ftp/sftp.

Andy

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Robert Gezelter — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:07:23 GMT

Jorge,

As it has already been asked, I will not repeat the request for a complete description of how the systems are networked. The use of Proxies implies DECnet (Phase IV or Phase V), but the comment about "host file" implies TCP/IP (and proxies are DECnet related, not FTP related).

Personally, if I am setting things up with proxies over DECnet, I tend to define logical names to point to the other node, thus hiding many of the details from the end users. However, before I start posting examples, I would like to verify that it is suitable for your situation.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Jorge Cocomess — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:24:27 GMT

Gentlemen,

It would be DECNET. I was able to copied from Node B to Node A without any problems. Howerver, I am having troble copying from Node A to Node B for some reason.

Any ideas??

Thanks,
Jorge

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Robert Gezelter — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:28:29 GMT

Jorge,

With all due respect, my colleagues and I need to see examples of:

- the proxy configurations of both nodes
- the commands issued
- the error messages generated

Without the above, we are truly working not only in the dark, but blindfolded.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Jan van den Ende — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:58:30 GMT

Jorge,

Too little evidence to call it proof, but
>>>
It would be DECNET. I was able to copied from Node B to Node A without any problems. Howerver, I am having troble copying from Node A to Node B for some reason.
<<<
this SUGGESTS, that one of your node decnet databases or one of the proxy databases is not correct.

Try copying to the
node_NUMBER"username password"::
in both directions. If that works, the hardware and connectivity is functioning, and the decnet config is the next step.
Replace node_NUMBER by node_NAME and repeat.
If that also works, it is in the proxies. If not, it is in the DECnet config database.

To go any further, we really need to know if this is DECnet IV or DECnet V.

hth

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Tony_289 — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:32:46 GMT

One thing you may want to exclude is to check whether you have been tagged as an intruder amongst the 2 nodes in question.

$ Set Process/priv=Security
$ Show intrusion

If by chance there are intrusion entries, then the delete/intrusion command may be applicable here. Can you or have you tried to do a Set host command to/from either node?

-- Tony

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Willem Grooters — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:19:31 GMT

DECNet: you won't need a "host file" - this is TCPIP. I assume you refer to the DECNet equivalent. If not, no trouble.

Copy is just straight forward:

$ COPY ::

where is :[]. (Parts missing on the right will be copies from the source side)
can be a DECNet nodename, but incase you haven't registered the name, the DECNet address will do: (.).

For instance:

$ COPY LOGIN.COM NODE1::DKA0:[somedir]MyLogin.com

or

$ COPY LOGIN.COM 1234::DKA0:[somedir]MyLogin.com

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:40:56 GMT

Jorge,

Please post the results from your commands and add the qualifier /LOG.

The commmand that fails will give an errormessage and the working command will tell us how the authentication is done.

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Jan van den Ende — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:43:01 GMT

@ Willem:

>>>
Copy is just straight forward:

$ COPY ::
<<<

Yes, ASSUMING that access and proxies ARE correct.

My understanding of the question:
it does NOT function correctly, so, HOW to investigate & correct the WHY here.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Willem Grooters — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:45:40 GMT

I know, I know. No data specified so just ASSUMING it's perfect (or nearly)
[quote]
HOW to investigate & correct the WHY here
[/quote]

Data, data, data!!!!! Otherwise irt's all guesswork.

So, Jorge: We need more data!
Except for the other data requests, answer the following questions (you may need privs for this)

What does this tell you:

$ NCP :== $NCP
$ NCP SHOW NODE

where is the DECNet name of the system you try to access.

If this gives you an error like:

%NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component , Node

the translation to

fails. If you know the DECNet address, try:

$ NCP SHOW NODE

If this gives an error, the address is unknown in your network. If is succeeeds, you need to register the nodename with this address, within DECNet.

If this Ok, try to access the remote node useing a username and password you know are valid on that node - to bypass the proxies.

WG

Re: Enable copying between VMS servers

Jorge Cocomess — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:31:53 GMT

We have DECnet & TCPIP running on the same interface. What was really wrong is the node name was not registered correctly. I corrected the node name under Net$configure advanced and rebuilt the configure file.

Reboot and now everything is working like it should. What I will need is to load those ECO's patches on my VMS box soon.

Thanks,
Jorge