topic Re: Decserver 90L in Operating System - OpenVMS

Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:19:32 GMT

Hi,

We have a Decserver 90L that we use with a modem to send faxes out from our Alpha ES40 machine and today this has stopped working i get the below message when i try to start the queue :

%SYSTEM-F-HANGUP, data set hang-up

Can anyone give me some pointers on how to get check this equipment is ok and to get it up and running again...

I have checked the phone line and it is ok i have even rebooted the Alpha machine but still doesn't work.
The Decserver just has a flashing green light on it, can i get onto this at all?

Thanks

Re: Decserver 90L

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:24:05 GMT

http://vt100.net/mirror/mds-199909/cd2/network/dsrvdom1.pdf

Is the decserver ok ?

Wim

Re: Decserver 90L

Duncan Morris — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:27:31 GMT

Peter,

you will also find quite a lot of useful pointers in this thread (even though yours is a 90L rather than 90TL)

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1123776

Duncan

Re: Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:32:00 GMT

I don't know if it is ok i suspect not but want to know if there is a way to administer or test the decserver..

Re: Decserver 90L

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:46:36 GMT

If you have it defined in ncl as a mop client you can do
set ho /mop xxx
If alive a prompt will be shown.
Or use TSM.

You can always reboot the decserver. Unplug power+plug again.

Wim

Re: Decserver 90L

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:04:07 GMT

Or do
mc ncl sho csm stat *
note name as xxx

and

set ho/mop/circ=xxx/ad=xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
(xxx... is on the decserver)

Wim

Re: Decserver 90L

Paul Beaudoin — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:23:23 GMT

Peter,

From memory (which may be faulty)

The DECserver is alive - the data set hangup is effectively the server refusing the connection. Can be caused by (among other things):
The target port is not set to 'remote' or other config problem that prevents it from conneting.
The port is set to modem control and the signals (that is the modem) is not ready. Sounds like a good bet in your case.

As other suggested: TSM (which is free) is very useful to get, install and learn for DECserver stuff.
Good Luck

Paul

Re: Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:59:53 GMT

If i do mc ncl sho csm stat * i get the message:
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image NCL

Any other ideas?

Re: Decserver 90L

EdgarZamora_1 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:23:36 GMT

Have you tried power-cycling the terminal server yet?

If that doesn't fix the problem you can manage the decserver 90L locally by attaching a terminal to one of the ports. Hit return a couple of times and it should set the correct baud rate. Try different ports until you find one that responds with a prompt (default is "->" iirc)

>>> If i do mc ncl sho csm stat * i get the message:
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image NCL <<<

Maybe you're not on DECnet V? Do a $ SHOW NET /FULL to see if you have decnet running and what version it is. If you're on phase IV use NCP instead of NCL.

Also, which green light is the decserver flashing?

Re: Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:52:25 GMT

Yes tried powering the decserver off and on.
The green light on the far left just flashes constantly...

Re: Decserver 90L

Vladimir Fabecic — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:12:15 GMT

How is that server connected to network?
Over BNC cables?
Did you check cables and terminators?

Re: Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:17:47 GMT

Yes bnc cables i have checked and they all look ok but don't have any spares to try...

Re: Decserver 90L

Vladimir Fabecic — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:18:26 GMT

And if using Decnet IV, try
$ MC NCP CONNECT VIA your_circ_name PHYS ADDR xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
For example:
$ MC NCP CONNECT VIA EWA-0 PHYS ADDR 08-00-2B-23-AB-12
that should connect to server via MOP

Re: Decserver 90L

Peter Clarke — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:29:27 GMT

Have tried putting a terminal on each of the ports and just get funny characters streaming across the screen.

Re: Decserver 90L

EdgarZamora_1 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:30:21 GMT

IIRC on a decserver 90L, the first led is the power on led and it should be steadily lit. The second led is self test ok and it should be steadily lit and if not, the unit has to be replaced.

Re: Decserver 90L

Vladimir Fabecic — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:45:41 GMT

As far I can remember, DS90L+ would not boot if network cable is not terminated.
Try to put just T-stick with two terminators, and then power off and power on.