topic Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting? in Operating System - OpenVMS

pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

James Cordill — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:51:33 GMT

We use pathworks only for external authentication, and every now and then it just stops working. The docs are little help in troubleshooting, they just seem to imply that you turn it on and it just works.
Details: OpenVMS v7.3-2 Alpha, PW v6.1 I think, at least that is what PWVERSION command gives.
When its not working, when one tries to login, you get the username prompt, a long pause then the password prompt that always fails to work.
No error messages in any logs, other then bad password.
Any tips, hints????

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

John Gillings — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:00:04 GMT

James,
The pause sounds like a network problem talking to the authentication system. Maybe a DNS translation problem? Do PING and NSLOOKUP work?

Might be interesting to try logging in at the console.

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

Paul Nunez — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:54:06 GMT

Hi James,

to troubleshoot:

$ define/system/exec sys$single_signon 80000001
$ reply/enable=security

The error could help a lot or a little.

If PATHWORKS is having problems communicating with a domain controller (you didn't indicate what role - PDC, BDC, or Member server of the PATHWORKS server) to authenticate a user, it's pretty good about logon NETLOGON messages in its System event log:

$ admin show events/full/since[=]

(Caution: If you don't see any messages returned, the event log may be full; drop the "/since" from the above command and see how old the most recent message is. If necessary, use $ ADMIN CLEAR EVENTS to clear it).

When the problem occurs, might be interesting to see if $ ADMIN LOGON works (using the user's credentials works (though it does use a different authentication protocol from that used whan a client user attempts to authenticate).

BTW, how do you typically "fix" it?

Paul

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

James Cordill — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:25:32 GMT

Paul, thanks for the tips. All of my VMS pathworks systems are member servers, after setting up the system logical and enabling opcom, when a user attempts to login, I see and error that indicated the userid is invalid( it not ), the error returned is:
13:21:00.16: SYS$LOGONW - ACME state = 80000005
13:21:00.16: Function = ACME$_MAP_TO_USERNAME
13:21:00.16: Attempting to map Userid "NRPE"
13:21:00.16: Userid found in SYSUAF
13:21:00.16: User does not have ExtAuth set
13:21:00.16: Username = NRPE
13:21:00.16: IOSB status follows:
13:21:00.16: %SYSTEM-S-NORMAL, normal successful completion
13:21:00.16: IOSB devdepend follows:
13:21:00.16: %NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000

When I try the admin logon, it works fine but I did notice it logs into the bdc and not the pdc. I'll talk to the domain admin and see what he can find out in his logs.

The usuall fix it to putts around, removing and adding the node to the domain, and/or rebooting, neither is always effective, sometimes just waiting a day or two will magically fix itself. No real answer.
Again, thanks for the tips, if I can pin it down I will post the answer.

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

Paul Nunez — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:36:18 GMT

Hi James,

You stated:

...when a user attempts to login, I see and error that indicated the userid is invalid( it not ), the error returned is:
13:21:00.16: SYS$LOGONW - ACME state = 80000005
13:21:00.16: Function = ACME$_MAP_TO_USERNAME
13:21:00.16: Attempting to map Userid "NRPE"
13:21:00.16: Userid found in SYSUAF
13:21:00.16: User does not have ExtAuth set

The error returned was "User does not have ExtAuth set" or did you just post the wrong screen area?

Paul

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

James Cordill — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:57:45 GMT

Yes, a bad posting. Here is the error:
13:56:16.70: SYS$LOGONW - ACME state = 80000005
13:56:16.70: Function = ACME$_MAP_TO_USERNAME
13:56:16.70: Attempting to map Userid "CORDILLJ"
13:56:16.70: Userid found in SYSUAF
13:56:16.70: ExtAuth is set for user
13:56:40.74: Return status from ACME map routine follows:
13:56:40.74: %ACME-E-NOSUCHUSERID, user-id does not exist or is invalid
13:56:40.74: ACME reason code = 2221
13:56:40.74: IOSB status follows:
13:56:40.74: %SYSTEM-F-INVUSER, no such user
13:56:40.74: IOSB devdepend follows:
13:56:40.74: %ACME-E-NOSUCHUSERID, user-id does not exist or is invalid

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

Paul Nunez — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:39:25 GMT

Hi,

Ok. Can't recall if PATHWORKS v6.1 only seeks out the domain PDC for extauth or if it seeks out any domain controller.

You might want to check if it can at least find the PDC:

$ @sys$startup:pwrk$define_commands
$ nbshow knbstatus

If there's no obvious NETLOGON error seen by $ ADMIN SHOW EVENTS/FULL/SINCE then you may need to resort to getting a network trace:

$ @sys$startup:tcpip$define_commands
$ tcpdump -s1518 -w a.cap port 53 or 137 or 138 or 139

Duplicate the extauth failure and then stop the trace with Ctrl+C. I think you can attach the capture file here and we can download for analysis but may want to zip it first with "-V" to retain file attributes...

Paul

Paul

Re: pathworks external authentications troubleshooting?

James Cordill — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:46:46 GMT

The problem was solved by rerunning the pwrk$config program and enabling WINS. Not sure how it got disabled, but its working now. Thanks to all who offered suggestions.