topic Re: firmware in Operating System - OpenVMS

firmware

adarsh_4 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:27:08 GMT

i downloaded the firmware for alpha ds10 from the HP site. I used iso bluster to extract the image and burned it on a cd. the system read a error as "not a bootable disc".

please advise as to how can i get the firmware. I already tested the cd rom and its working.

Re: firmware

Steven Schweda — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:20:36 GMT

> i downloaded the firmware for alpha ds10
> from the HP site.

Some of us non-psychics can't tell from that
description what you downloaded.

Should I know what "iso bluster" is? Or what
"extract the image" means?

Re: firmware

John Gillings — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:29:37 GMT

adarsh,

It shouldn't have been necessary to use "iso buster". Just follow the instructions on the HP site for creating your CD. It's possible the CD is a hybrid, which iso buster won't necessarily understand.

(for Steven's benefit, iso buster is a PC utility which can be used to diagnose or recover data from damaged iso 9660 CDs, or examine the contents of iso images).

Re: firmware

adarsh_4 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:24:57 GMT

thanks,i first did exactly what the site was instructing but still no luck.

Re: firmware

Steven Schweda — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:31:04 GMT

> [...] first did exactly what the site was
> instructing but still no luck.

Even better. Now I don't know what you
downloaded, I don't know what you did with
it, and I don't know what happened when you
did it. Could you possibly provide any less
useful information? (I don't see how.)

Re: firmware

adarsh_4 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:45:27 GMT

I first download the firmware from this site http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/firmware/.

later I made a cd of the image that i downloaded and when i try to update the firmware form the cd, it says that the cd is not bootable.

i hope i have given the information u wanted

Re: firmware

GuentherF — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:58:59 GMT

I just took a look at that webpage. I don't see an option for an ISO image to download. But there are easy step-by-step instructions on how tp update the firmware on a DS10.

So adarsh, which one did you try? I know if ISO Buster is your only tool all files are ISO images, right? ;-)

/Guenther

Re: firmware

adarsh_4 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:04:04 GMT

the option which says "as shown below"

Make Your Own Bootable Firmware CD

To make your own bootable CD only image (bootable DVD's are not supported), download the zipped .iso image (over 200MB) to a PC with CD writing abilities. Create your CD then boot the CD to update firmware on one of the systems listed on CD.

this is on the link that I mentioned

Re: firmware

Steven Schweda — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:42:21 GMT

> I first download the firmware from this
> site [...]

Is there even a small chance that you will
ever tell us exactly what you downloaded?

> later I made a cd of the image [...]

Or exactly what you did with it after you
downloaded it?

> i hope i have given the information u wanted

You didn't come close.

Re: firmware

adarsh_4 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:54:52 GMT

when u go to that site I mentioned, you will see that it gives a option of downloading the image file of the firmware, its a .iso file.

first I just burned the whole file as downloaded to a cd

second- i used the ios bluster and then burned the cd.

Re: firmware

Jon Pinkley — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:34:25 GMT

adarsh,

What is actually there is a zip file.

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/alphaserver/firmware/v73.zip

So, first you must unzip.

Then you must use a CD burning application that knows how to burn a disc from an .iso image. You can't just create a CD that contains the .iso file.

The .iso image is similar to a backup/physical, it can be used to make a "clone" of a data disc. It just does a sector for sector copy, so the image can be a copy of a 9660, ODS2 volume, or a HDS, etc., The burner doesn't know or care; it just copies the sectors in the order they appear in the .iso image.

This freeware has been recommended if you are using XP.

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

See this thread: "How to make copy of Openvms dvd?"

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1268984

Jon

Re: firmware

Steven Schweda — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:01:55 GMT

> What is actually there is a zip file.

That's what I saw.

> first I just burned the whole file as
> downloaded to a cd

_Which_ whole file?

> So, first you must unzip.

Exactly.

Please learn what "explain exactly what you
did" means, and then try again. (Or else go
away, but in any case, please stop wasting
everyone's time with these useless
non-descriptions of what you are doing.)

Re: firmware

GuentherF — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:41:28 GMT

Oh man Steve! Couldn't find a nicer tone, eh?

But basically I am with you Steve.

So adarsh, want to take the challenge and give us the exact details of what you did not just an exact odrder of what you did?

/Guenther

Re: firmware

Hoff — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:53:35 GMT

You are aware you can upgrade firmware from a local disk, assuming the AlphaServer DS10 box is mostly working, right?

As for the CD-R/RW approach, swap CD-R/RW drives and swap media, and ensure the steps being followed here are the correct ones. Without the sequence of commands and the tools and the details here on what exactly is transpiring, I'm going to make the leap that this sequence involved Windows here, and quite possibly Nero to burn the CD-R/RW disk.

My first suspect here would be latent errors with this combination; various versions of Nero I've encountered are not able to correctly burn raw disks. CDburnerXP Pro is a free package that does quite well in this regard, and can burn raw disk images on Windows boxes.

If this is Mac OS X, Linux, OpenVMS or another platform, the specific command sequence and the particular tools can vary. (Yes, current OpenVMS can burn disk images, too.)

Here is a document that I tend to suggest to everyone that's in the computer (or any other technical) business:

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

as it details how you can get the fastest answer and the best alternatives, and an answer and alternatives that are relevant to the question(s) intended.

Re: firmware

Steven Schweda — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:37:17 GMT

> Oh man Steve! Couldn't find a nicer tone,
> eh?

Couldn't find any useful information, either.
Give me a simple answer to a simple question,
and my tone will improve accordingly. Waste
everyone's time with vague descriptions of
everything, time after time, and I get
annoyed.

Side benefit: Writing a clear description of
a problem often leads directly to seeing its
solution, which can save everyone some time
and effort.