topic Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45 in Operating System - OpenVMS

Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Donna Wolf — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:59:48 GMT

I can't seem to get the ES45 to recognized my CIPCA noerrors itc it is just like it is not there... perhaps required in a specific PCI slot? Any help would be appreciated
pertainent config info:
P00>>>sh config
hp AlphaServer ES45 Model 2B

Firmware
SRM Console:
V7.32
PALcode: OpenVMS PALcode V1.98-43, Tru64 UNIX PALcode V1.92-33
Serial ROM: V2.22-G
RMC ROM: V1.1
RMC Flash ROM: V2.3
Processors
CPU 0 Alpha EV68CB pass 2.4 1000 MHz 8MB Bcache
CPU 1 Alpha EV68CB pass 2.4 1000 MHz 8MB Bcache
CPU 2 Alpha EV68CB pass 2.4 1000 MHz 8MB Bcache
CPU 3 Alpha EV68CB pass 2.4 1000 MHz 8MB Bcache

Core Logic
Cchip Rev 18
Dchip Rev 17
PPchip 0 Rev 17
PPchip 1 Rev 17
TIG Rev 2.6

Memory
Array Size Base Address Intlv Mode
--------- ---------- ---------------- ----------
0 4096Mb 0000000000000000 1-Way
1 2048Mb 0000000100000000 1-Way
2 2048Mb 0000000180000000 1-Way

8192 MB of System Memory

Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 0, PCI
7 Acer Labs M1543C Bridge to Bus 1, ISA
8 3D Labs OXYGEN VX1 vga0.0.0.8.0
11 NCR 53C895 pka0.7.0.11.0 SCSI Bus ID 7
mka600.6.0.11.0 COMPAQ SDLT320
12 Yukon PCI Hot-Plug C
16 Acer Labs M1543C IDE dqa.0.0.16.0
dqb.0.1.16.0
dqa0.0.0.16.0 HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8160
B

Option Hose 0, Bus 1, ISA
Floppy dva0.0.0.1000.0

Slot Option Hose 1, Bus 0, PCI
1 HP Smart Array 5300A pya0.0.0.1.1
dya0.0.0.1.1 CPQCISS
dya1.0.0.1.1 CPQCISS
6 Yukon PCI Hot-Plug C

Slot Option Hose 2, Bus 0, PCI
1 FCA-2354 pga0.0.0.1.2 WWN 1000-0000-c92f-926b
dga2981.1001.0.1.2 EMC SYMMETRIX
dga2982.1001.0.1.2 EMC SYMMETRIX
2 DEGPA-TA

Slot Option Hose 3, Bus 0, PCI
1 Intel 21154-*E Bridge to Bus 2, PCI
2 FCA-2354 pgb0.0.0.2.3 WWN 1000-0000-c92c-7c11
dgb2981.1002.0.2.3 EMC SYMMETRIX
dgb2982.1002.0.2.3 EMC SYMMETRIX
6 Yukon PCI Hot-Plug C

Slot Option Hose 3, Bus 2, PCI
4 DE602-B* eia0.0.0.2004.3 00-0B-CD-4B-2D-CE
5 DE602-B* eib0.0.0.2005.3 00-0B-CD-4B-2D-CF
P00>>>

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Hoff — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:24:37 GMT

What's the history of this CIPCA-BA? In particular, is it known (recently) functional?

Have you tried re-loading the console firmware (and adapter firmware) here?

Here's the documentation, if you haven't already found it:

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/alphaserver/archive/alpha/misc/cipca_cg.pdf

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Duncan Morris — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:31:55 GMT

Donna,

as far as I can recall, the CIPCA-BA is a 5.0V PCI card, so you would need to place it in two adjacent 5.0V PCI slots rather than the 3.3V slots.

See fig 4-16 in the attached link for slot specs on the ES45 model 2B

http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/download/ek-es450-ug-b01.pdf

Duncan

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Donna Wolf — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:32:34 GMT

I pulled them 2 years ago out of working 4100's and have tryed 2 of them
I'll update all the firmware again though - I might not have on that 2nd one I installed...

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Hein van den Heuvel — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:43:34 GMT

Hmmm, is that memory not slightly misconfigured? If you put the 2GB options in slot 0 and 1, then they will interleave no?

What will we connected to the CIPCA?
A dual path Cipca will still be limited to 140mb/second roughly single scsi-2 speeds.
And the controllers and drives behind them are not too fast either by todays standards. ( The fibre channel connected EMC stuff )

I'm guessing you just want to connect to some legacy storage which still has to be maintained for other system needs.
From a performance, footprint and energy use perspective you should probably ditch the whole lot, but that may not be realistic.

Regards,
Hein

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Hoff — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:58:52 GMT

Hein is right, as is usual.

The 2 Gb Fibre Channel SAN gear is looking a little slow these days.

The CI 2 x 70 Mb gear here is way, way slow.

Some legacy hardware configuration being retired or scrubbed or such, may I presume? It might be easier to move the disk shelves over than to fuss with a CIPCA and CI cabling, if that is the case.

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Bill Hall — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:20 GMT

Donna,

I'm going to agree with Duncan. You will have to use the four 5volt slots in the model 2B. Specifically PCI slots 3,6,9,10. Its been a long time since I've used a CIPCA, but off the top of my head I would think the intermodule ribbon cables would be long enough to span over slots 4 and 5.

Bill

Re: Adding CIPCA-BA to a ES45

Donna Wolf — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:13:02 GMT

thank you all it is the wrong pci slots.. thanks for the docs -- info and all the help!! my bad on the memory - That can/will be fixed. Trust me I am not using CIPCA by choice--- legacy and lack of $$ drive that! I am just in the trenches keeping running with no budget!! :-)