topic Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?! in Server Management - Remote Server Management

DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:28:25 GMT

We just ordered a few of these systems maxed out with 4x 2.2GHz Barcelona's and 64GB RAM (for VMware deployment) and after applying an ILO2 advanced license i'm somewhat shocked to see that there is no power monitoring available on these systems!

Does anyone know why this is, and whether this is like to change with any firmware updates down the line?

It seems like something of a backward step especially given that much smaller / less powerful systems like DL36x's and DL38x's have those features!

Thanks.

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:36:05 GMT

I wasn't sure if this was some kind of glitch with the ILO web engine, but as if to reaffirm it, SSH'ing into the ILO port and issuing a 'show system1' command, at the bottom of the list of elements I see this:

enabledstate=enabled
oemhp_powerreg=auto
processor_number=8
pstate_number=5
oemhp_pwrcap=not set
--> Power Monitoring commands aren't supported

?!??!

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

Kim Se Hyung — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:43:39 GMT

Buy iLo2 Power Pack ?

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:55:07 GMT

ILO2 Advanced includes power monitoring so I don't believe there is any need to buy the ILO2 Power Pack...?

We've deployed ILO2 Advanced onto about 10 servers so far and had power monitoring on all of them!

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:19:15 GMT

Bump. Can I get any comments from anyone on this? I'm staggered that there isn't any power monitoring on this system?

Was there on the DL585 G2?!

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

Blazhev_1 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:28:45 GMT

Hi,

you don't need no other license to monitor the power through ilo2.
There should be a power management tab (the 4th one) - this is ilo feature, which should be 100% supported from this server.

While writing this I checked the BIOS versions :

Version: 2008.02.20 (A)

"Added support for monitoring processor power states using Integrated Lights Out 2 (iLO2) or Insight Power Manager for ProLiant G5 AMD Opteron Servers utilizing Third Generation AMD Opteron 8300-series Quad-Core Processors. This feature requires an iLO Select Pack or iLO Advanced Pack license."

To update the ilo, BIOS and all other firmwares, use firmware maintenance CD if you haven't already:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=MTX-8141ddd7398a47ba87134a90dd〈=en&cc=us&mode=5&

Regards
Blazhev

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:17:44 GMT

The server shipped with the most recent ILO2 firmware on it (1.50) and the system firmware was already at 2008.02.20 (A) but just to rule that out as being to blame, I updated to an even more recent firmware on the most recent firmware CD. The BIOS version is now bumped up to 2008.03.28 (A) - but unfortunately there is still no proper power monitoring.

You can indeed view processor states in the ILO2 but there is none of the actual Watts or BTU/hr that i'm used to.... :(

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

acartes — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:22:31 GMT

Confirmed: The DL585G2 and DL585G5 does not support power measurement via iLO.

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:39:29 GMT

What a joke :| So, HP are keen to bring model numbers in line with each other, but clearly not the equipment, even on more expensive models!

How can the DL36x and the DL38x of this generation have power monitoring but not the DL58x?!

I'm at a loss for words, and so glad I spent money on Insight Power Monitoring licenses that I can't use where I wanted them!

But thanks for the answer as at least it stops me guessing.

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

KarloChacon — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:11:33 GMT

hi guys

I am little list

what do you mean by no power monitoring? what is the tab missing?? or where is located?

regards

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:28:41 GMT

If you login to ILO2, and click on System Information and then the Power tab, on other systems such as a DL385 G5 you will see that it displays 'Present Power Reading' and shows the current system draw in Watts.

If you click into the Power Management tab, you'll see there is an option on the left called Power Meter to view power draw over a period of time.

These options are not present on our DL585's and conveniently the help files fail to mention those options - the appropriate entries are just not there.

Again - this is frustrating for us as we'd purchased 585's to consolidate some older hardware and wanted to watch the power draw on the servers we were putting in to see how the utilisation climbed as additional hosts were added.

I emailed HP support for clarification and they redirected me back to this thread - a thread that I created!! :)

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

Adrian Clint — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:58:44 GMT

Although you dont need Insight Power Manager to pull the display you are after... if you look on the list of supported servers it tells you the list of servers that can provide this information.

The DL585 is not on this list. Neither is the DL785.

But the BL685 is! Hmmm

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

KarloChacon — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:35:17 GMT

hi

got it now I see

the interesting thing is this

""Power Consumption Reporting
On supported server models, the iLO 2 management processor displays the present power consumption in Watts. The present power is a five minute average that is calculated and displayed via all iLO 2 interfaces (browser, CLI, script)."""

source: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12362_na/12362_na.html

now I wanna know which are those supported servers?

just assuming
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01130986〈=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=1842750&prodTypeId=15351

that advisory is related with power meter and If I assume that the Servers that support power meter would be these

Hardware Platforms Affected:

HP ProLiant DL385 G2 Server series, HP ProLiant DL365 Server series, HP ProLiant BL465c Server series, HP ProLiant BL480c Server series, HP Integrated Lights-Out 2 (iLO 2) Firmware(Standard HP Product), HP ProLiant BL25p G2 Server series, HP ProLiant BL20p G4 Server series, HP ProLiant DL380 G5 Server series, HP ProLiant BL45p G2 Server series, HP ProLiant BL460c Server series, HP ProLiant ML350 G5 Server series, HP ProLiant DL360 G5 Server series, HP ProLiant ML370 G5 Server series, HP Integrated Lights-Out 2 (iLO 2) Standard Blade Edition Firmware(Standard HP Product), HP ProLiant BL685c Server series

I would like to get something more specific saying List of supported server but had been difficult for me

regards

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:00:41 GMT

Well - controversially, check out this page:

http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/versions.html

It lists the features of ILO2 and what models of server support it and under what licensing mode you have to be to get it. Present Power Reading and Historical Power Reading / Capping is listed as a feature for Advanced ILO2 users on (and I quote) "All HP ProLiant ML/DL 300/500/700 Series equipped with iLO 2" - a DL585 is a 500 series server, it has an ILO2 board, and I have an advanced license.

So where are the Power Readings....? :(

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:17:52 GMT

Karlo -

The page you linked to:

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12362_na/12362_na.html)

It does indeed say, further down the page, that the Power reading / monitoring, etc is available on (and I quote again) "All HP ProLiant ML/DL 300/500 Series."

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

KarloChacon — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:20:44 GMT

yes

I read all of them but you can see it's not, documentation it's not the best for this matter

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

acartes — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:19:19 GMT

The web documentation could be better in this area. There are several resources available:

Power Regulator:
http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ilo/sup_servers.html

Insight Power Manager:
http://www.hp.com/go/ipm
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00845879/c00845879.pdf

Tech Brief:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00502616/c00502616.pdf

ProLiant DL585G2 Tech Brief:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00795594/c00795594.pdf

Re: DL585 G5 - No power monitoring with ILO2 Advanced?!

JimTaylor — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:53:15 GMT

Doesn't seem to be a very clear cut yes or no on whether power monitoring should be there.

I noticed that the DL585 G5 is listed as a supported product on IPM - I don't see how it can be supported if there are no power commands available over ILO for the IPM product to extract the data it needs? If I SSH into the ILO on a server that supports power readings, I can see the following data in /system1 :

oemhp_PresentPower=232 Watts
oemhp_AveragePower=231 Watts
oemhp_MaxPower=242 Watts
oemhp_MinPower=231 Watts

IPM needs SSH available otherwise it cannot log the data so I can only assume it gets the information from here.

On a DL585 G5 in the same area I see:

Power Monitoring commands aren't supported

Without those power figures, how could IPM work?