topic Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds) in Server Management - Systems Insight Manager

Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

Fahrenheit — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:42:05 GMT

Sorry for all of these questions. I'm have some experience on other sys management software such as the ones from BMC's. However, I'm a complete newbie with HP SIMs.

My question today is concerning threshold setting through SyS Mgt Homepage. Basically, I would like to setup thresholds for logical disks which I can easily do on servers running Mgmt Agents For Serv 7.00.0.0 for windows. However, on 8.11.0.0 version, this option to get to "Operating System" in order to set the threshold for Logical Disk, etc.., is missing.

Are there anything I am forgetting to install or configure? Note that the 7.00.0.0 was installed/configured prior to my employment.

Attached is a screen shot comparison between Server Agent from 7.00.0.0 and 8.11.0.0. Notice besides "Operating System" module, I am also missing some other as well.

Thanks in Advance!

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

Rob Buxton — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:53:22 GMT

From the SMH under Settings change the SMH Data Source from WBEM to SNMP.
WBEM is the default for 8.00 and above but doesn't seem to have all of the options just yet.

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

Fahrenheit — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:46:38 GMT

Thank you, Rob!

I made the suggested changes from your instrucitons and it worked perfectly. Using SNMP is my preferred choice and was suprise that it defaulted to WBEM.

But there is something that I would like to understand about WBEM. If using WBEM, what type of transfer method will it be using to forward the events to the Management Console? Would that be SNMP or WBEM/WMI? Or is WBEM just a source to collect data?

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

David Claypool — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:30:13 GMT

WMI/WBEM uses a "subscription" from the management server model. The WMI transport is DCOM. If you are using HP SIM, it uses the WMI mapper to translate between WMI over DCOM and WBEM over HTTPS.

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

Fahrenheit — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:38:40 GMT

Thanks David!

From your description, WBEM seems too expensive to implement and manage. Wonder why anyone would choose it over SNMP? HP SIM should get rid of WBEM altogether. =)

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

Rob Buxton — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:54 GMT

Yes, the feeling seems to be only use wbem if you have to but just to make things interesting it's set as the default.
And it's not configurable from the agent so you need to go in and manually change it.

Re: Sys Management HomePage (Thresholds)

David Claypool — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:53:44 GMT

...the WBEM component is optional...so don't deploy it in the first place.