topic Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest? in Server Management - Systems Insight Manager

Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

chris bradley_3 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:44:02 GMT

Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest, running win2003 server?

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

David Claypool — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:46:37 GMT

According to the QuickSpecs, yes: http://www.hp.com/go/hpsim --> QuickSpecs. However, there are many concerns that need to be taken into account that are discussed here as the ProLiant Management Tip of the Month: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01328849/c01328849.pdf

Personally, I cannot advocate hosting a management application--any management application, not just HP SIM--in a VM for any but the smallest environments (<50 targets).

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

Rob Buxton — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:23:52 GMT

We ran HPSIM 5.2 on a virtual server. We've swapped to physical because RSP needs a physical server.
We need RSP because HP are removing the old ISEE.
We were monitoring around 300 devices.

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

Adrian Clint — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:00:21 GMT

SIM will work as a guest.
But there are add-ins that need to be on a physical machine.
RSP as mentioned above.
I think PSP and IDVSE also need SIM on a physical machine.

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

Paul_627 — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:30:35 GMT

"Personally, I cannot advocate hosting a management application--any management application, not just HP SIM--in a VM for any but the smallest environments (<50 targets)."

David:
I am trying to interpret your comment.
Are you saying a VM farm is not sufficiently fault tolerant to run critical applications?
or
A VM farm cannot provide adequate performance for critical applications?

IMHO, I believe that having a management application like SIM, tied to the underlying hardware is short sited. I would like to see HP provide a SIM appliance as a VM image, fully tested and debugged, ready to run.
The benefit to the HP customer base would be
incalculable.

pb

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

David Claypool — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:18:20 GMT

Read the article referenced above. It discusses the issues.

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

GeraldR — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:32:27 GMT

i do strongly agree with paul!!!

we run a fully virtualized datacenter in a vmware esx environment without any problems, - even medium scale oracle and sql databases... - it's only i question of correct sizing!!! no problems!

only problem is this damn rssp!!!

gerald

Re: Can SIM 5.3 be installed on a VMware 3.5 VM guest?

Adrian Clint — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:56:52 GMT

You cant configure the software components in Version Control if SIM is on a VM either.