topic Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 in Server Management - Systems Insight Manager

Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:52:38 GMT

Hi Guys,

I am not sure this is the right Forum for these questions.

1)I need someone to tell me about this, do we have to pay separately for these plug-ins >> (HP System Insight Manager (HP SIM) 5.3.1, HP Insight Rapid Deployment software (RDP) 3.83, HP Insight Virtual Machine Manager software (VMM) 3.6.1, HP Insight Performance Manager module 5.2.) ....which they come with "Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 " or do we just pay for the license which it covers all of these plug-ins as a whole "Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 " Package?
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ice/index.html

I am also in the process of planning to upgrade our HP SIM 5.1 SP1 with SQL 2000 to HP SIM 5.3 SP1 with SQL 2005 / 2008 and I am wondering whether to use "Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 " instead of just HP SIM 5.3 SP1 ? Not sure how to go a bout this ?

2) What is the Maximum number of Hosts a MS SQL 2008 Express Edition DB can hold in its database ? I know Maximum limit for MS SQL 2005 Express Edition is 500 hosts but I could not find it for SQL 2008 Express Edition ?? I am thinking to use SQL 2008 Express Edition when I will be upgrading our current HP SIM 5.1 / MS SQL 2000 to HP SIM 5.3 SP1 SQL 2008 Express Edition due to some restrictions in purchasing a new license for MS SQL 2008 Standard Edition. Any advise is appreciated !!

Cheers,
Robert

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

JKytsi — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:21:16 GMT

1) license info here http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantessentials/license/licenseops.html
HP SIM is free, rest is licenced (you can install the products without the licence though)

2) I remeber that sane amount of _devices_ one SIM server can handle is ~5000

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:28:26 GMT

Thanks Jarko for the Licensing info I will read it through ..

for question 2) SQL Server 2005 Express Edition supports 500 systems and 5,000 events.

What about SQL server 2008 Express ?

1- What is the Maximum systems does it support ?

2- What is the Maximum events, does it support ?

Cheers,
Robert

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:31:45 GMT

Another question:

Can I just install " Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 " Package " on top of my HP SIM 5.1 / SQL 2000 that I have now, or do I need to upgrade the current HP SIM 5.1 / SQL 2000 to HP SIM 5.3 SP1 first and then install Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 " Package to include all the other plug-ins which it comes with this package ? I am not sure how to go a bout this ?

Cheers,
Robert

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Indra2410 — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:50:50 GMT

It is possible to directly use Insight Control Suite (ICE) 3.10. If you directly try to install ICE 3.10 . You just launch IS Integrated Installer and then select the plug-ins you want to install. ICE 3.10 will automatically upgrade your existing database to SQL Express 2005 SP2 and will upgrade HP SIM also. It will not harm any of your existing data.

If you want to use any other database, you can manually upgrade to that Db first , then just do the installation.

Please post the result if you have tried.

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:03:02 GMT

Thanks Indra2410,

I am assuming that the license comes with Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 will cover all the plug-in installtions as you select during the install. Is that correct ?

Please let me know ...

I will post my results here, it depends which upgrade path we might take..

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Indra2410 — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:09:42 GMT

Installation does not require any license. You can install any plug-ins you want. After installation if you apply ICE or ICE -Bl license to your target system , it will enable you to do PMP,VMM ,VPM and IPM operations.

If you apply HP ID license along with ICE or ICE-BL Virtualizatin Manager , Capacity Advisor and Global Workload Manager operations.

Please reply.

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:15:59 GMT

Thanks Indra,

Could you please point me to installation document for Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 ? I am still a bit confused because I have been told that you need to purchase a license for Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10 ??

Cheers,
Robert

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Indra2410 — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:23:00 GMT

Please check if you get something from here.

http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ice/questionsanswers.html

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Indra2410 — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:24:52 GMT

To do some operations on those plug-ins , yes you need license. But not before installation. After installation you can do all the licensing as per your requirement.

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:48:35 GMT

I could not find what I wanted in that link you mentioned but I founf some documentation here:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual〈=en&cc=us&docIndexId=64179&taskId=101&prodTypeId=18964&prodSeriesId=3312156

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Adrian Clint — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:45:28 GMT

The installation Document for ICE is in the docs folder on the DVD.

And it will upgrade SIM as part of the install so no need to upgrade 1st.

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Adrian Clint — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:46:17 GMT

Oh forgot, and you add licenses after it has been installed.

Re: Insight Control suite (ICE) 3.10

Robert Babayan — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:31:26 GMT

Thanks Adrian ... much appreciated !