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    <title>topic Re: HP SIM classes way too expensive, what are my options? in Server Management - Systems Insight Manager</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5301773#M52497</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like Jim states, start with the manuals and take a look at forums and blogs (mine is &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.bitcon.be"&gt;www.bitcon.be&lt;/A&gt;) where you can find a lot of info.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Besides that do not under estimate training... I use and teach HP SIM (and other Proliant and storage stuff) already for more than 15 years, and the best part of the trainings (which I get from feedbacj afterwards) is not the fairly simple installation and configuration but all the best practices and pitfalls that you need to know...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also do on-site consulting which gives me also a lot of information to share with other small and large companies... That is the strength of a good trainer: practical experience...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck and have fun with SIM!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bart&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:16:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Bart_Heungens</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-08-16T13:16:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HP SIM classes way too expensive, what are my options?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5297899#M52473</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Need to get a handle and learn how to setup, configure, manage, HP SIM.&amp;nbsp; Have looked at the HP education classes, but at $1600 for each 2 day class, there's no way I can afford them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking for suggestions to free training resources, good books, courseware (that's affordable), etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for any help.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:16:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alberto de_la_Torre</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-08-11T15:16:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SIM classes way too expensive, what are my options?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5297927#M52475</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can do it the same way as most of us did&amp;nbsp;- read the manual. Today's installation manual&amp;nbsp;is better than&amp;nbsp;it has ever been for someone getting started - the hard part is filtering and consolidating the information to your specific context. In addition to the manuals there are&amp;nbsp;whitepapers available in the SIM Information Library.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You can also interact here in the forums or peruse any number of blogs out there like &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://worldofinsight.wordpress.com/"&gt;http://worldofinsight.wordpress.com/&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;for information from installation matters to specific platform management.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Classes will give you the ground work for success, best alternative is&amp;nbsp;having onsite consulting (which I do) with can help you define best practices for your environment and completely contextual knowledge transfer. Your Services Account Rep should be able to get you pointed in a good direction, perhaps there are some seminars, brown bag sessions or workshops in your own neck of the woods.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:47:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5297927#M52475</guid>
      <dc:creator>jim goodman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-08-11T15:47:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SIM classes way too expensive, what are my options?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5298099#M52480</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have you got access to some tin to build yourself a development box on ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found that running a production box with a development one to try things out works well. Start with the basics and research on here for the bits that you want to achieve.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even with our enterprise level I wouldn't like to have to pay the bill, great toolset for free !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5298099#M52480</guid>
      <dc:creator>Parky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-08-11T19:47:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SIM classes way too expensive, what are my options?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5301773#M52497</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like Jim states, start with the manuals and take a look at forums and blogs (mine is &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.bitcon.be"&gt;www.bitcon.be&lt;/A&gt;) where you can find a lot of info.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Besides that do not under estimate training... I use and teach HP SIM (and other Proliant and storage stuff) already for more than 15 years, and the best part of the trainings (which I get from feedbacj afterwards) is not the fairly simple installation and configuration but all the best practices and pitfalls that you need to know...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also do on-site consulting which gives me also a lot of information to share with other small and large companies... That is the strength of a good trainer: practical experience...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck and have fun with SIM!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bart&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:16:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/server-management-systems/hp-sim-classes-way-too-expensive-what-are-my-options/m-p/5301773#M52497</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bart_Heungens</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-08-16T13:16:22Z</dc:date>
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