topic Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003? in Server Management - Systems Insight Manager

Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Lee Boruchow — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:17:05 GMT

The install guide says not to, but can you?
...and then just do the SSH steps outlined in the readme file?

Thanks.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Greg Gover — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:22:34 GMT

I installed using a domain account with no issues. I have not setup the SSH on the remote systems. Only on the CMS.

I am currently having a issue with Performance mgmt pack, but it was working.

So I probably did something to cause the failure.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Lee Boruchow — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:40:08 GMT

Ok, but what account is your SSH service running under? Still the domain account?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Joel Rubenstein — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:10 GMT

Lee,

Yes SSH runs fine under a domain account.
The 4.2 SSH installer was updated to make the Windows 2003 changes automatically and therefore you should not need to perform the steps indicated in the readme file.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Lee Boruchow — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:58:08 GMT

ah... i did not know that!
That makes a big difference... so I can just disregard all of the "fixes" discussed on this board?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Joel Rubenstein — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:17 GMT

You should not need to do the steps outlined in the readme file. However you may need to either add the administrator account to SSH or else modify the tool definitions to use the domain account you installed SSH with. All this is explained in the white paper.

SSH installations rarely work right out of the box but usually require some tweaking to get them going.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Lee Boruchow — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:16:02 GMT

Thanks again

I have reviewed the whitepaper, and it doesnt really cover changing the tool definitions to run as the domain account

can you give some steps?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

David Claypool — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:33:32 GMT

Lee: See thread at http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=781430

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Joel Rubenstein — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:33:47 GMT

if you look in the file C:\Program Files\OpenSSH\etc\passwd you will see entries like

Administrator:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:500:513:U-AETML530\Administrator,S-1-5-21-1792761498-767816368-506675766-500:/home/Administrator:/bin/switch

The first parameter (in this case Administrator) is the name you want to change in the tool definitions for the which is the user SIM executes the commands as.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Lee Boruchow — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:04:34 GMT

Joel...
during the SSH install, it asks for an account to run the service under

If I enter a domain account and password, it indicates that the password is invalid... even if it is valid

any thoughts?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Jennifer Taylor_4 — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:59:40 GMT

I'm having the same issue. I really want to use the domain admin account as we don't use the local admin for anything. I've uninstalled and reinstalled "everything" 3 times now. I want 1 username and 1 password for everything. Is that possible?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Jennifer Taylor_4 — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:06:07 GMT

One more thing, It would have been nice of HP to take the 2003 install warning out of the install papers if it doesn't apply anymore. It got very confusing on which admin to use in some parts. The local or domain.

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Annette Jones_3 — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:43 GMT

Is this a custom or Typical install, try this thread!

Typical install will use the account you are logged on as, Custom will request an accountname/password.
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=770599

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Joel Rubenstein — Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:58:21 GMT

To install SSH using a domain account run can run the installation manually as follows

openssh.exe /domain="MYDOMAIN"

You should then get to an interactive installation screen, where you can change the location of the install to your preferred application drive, AND use a domain account to be the service account.

(It is not necessary to use MYDOMAIN\domain-account on the interactive screen, just domain-account works fine.)

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Jennifer Taylor_4 — Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:24:58 GMT

Thank you,
SSH turned out to be the only thing that wouldn't take the domain acct settings. Do you know if I can reinstall it or should I uninstall it first then do a fresh install?

Re: Can you install SIM 4.2 using a domain account on 2003?

Joel Rubenstein — Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:59:46 GMT

I would recommend uninstalling openSSH and then reinstalling.