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    <title>topic Quick question on stacking with SAS interconnects installed. in BladeSystem - General</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/bladesystem-general/quick-question-on-stacking-with-sas-interconnects-installed/m-p/5579799#M32228</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Chris had a SAS question:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;****************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When joining enclosures in a single VC Domain, do the SAS interconnects have to be installed in the other enclosures?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know all VC and VC-FC modules need to be in each enclosure in the same locations. I would assume the SAS interconnects to a P4800 would also have to follow the same rules, but I am unsure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;From Armand:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS switches have no relationship with a VC domain. They could be plugged in the same enclosure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS switches are part of a zone, very similar to SAN zoning.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, they cannot be stacked, so the SAS zone would be limited to a single enclosure + P2000 or MDS600 connected to it using SAS cables.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;***************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;And from Dan:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;****************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think you are slightly confusing 2 different things.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Stacking in a single domain only requires FC connections to be mirrored on all chassis.&amp;nbsp; Ethernet connections can be setup however you like.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Multiple VC Domains in the same Domain Group managed by VCEM require that Ethernet uplinks be the same across all domains in the group because otherwise if you migrated a profile from Domain A to Domain B, there is no guarantee you would have a network waiting for you.&amp;nbsp; I am less than 100% sure here though as I think there may have been recent changes on this topic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But both of these, at least my understanding of them anyway, is predicated on the fact that these items are all &lt;STRONG&gt;VC&lt;/STRONG&gt; modules being controller by either the domain or VCEM.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don’t believe that VC imposes any such similarity rules on NON-VC modules under which the SAS Switches would be categorized.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Along those lines, if you had Brocade FC switches in the same chassis as Flex-10 modules, those would not have to be identical in order to stack a second Flex-10 chassis, because VC is not controlling the Fibre Channel modules or HBAs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Any other comments or suggestions?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:41:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>chuckk281</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-12T00:41:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Quick question on stacking with SAS interconnects installed.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/bladesystem-general/quick-question-on-stacking-with-sas-interconnects-installed/m-p/5579799#M32228</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Chris had a SAS question:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;****************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When joining enclosures in a single VC Domain, do the SAS interconnects have to be installed in the other enclosures?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know all VC and VC-FC modules need to be in each enclosure in the same locations. I would assume the SAS interconnects to a P4800 would also have to follow the same rules, but I am unsure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;From Armand:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS switches have no relationship with a VC domain. They could be plugged in the same enclosure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS switches are part of a zone, very similar to SAN zoning.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, they cannot be stacked, so the SAS zone would be limited to a single enclosure + P2000 or MDS600 connected to it using SAS cables.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;***************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;And from Dan:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;****************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think you are slightly confusing 2 different things.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Stacking in a single domain only requires FC connections to be mirrored on all chassis.&amp;nbsp; Ethernet connections can be setup however you like.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Multiple VC Domains in the same Domain Group managed by VCEM require that Ethernet uplinks be the same across all domains in the group because otherwise if you migrated a profile from Domain A to Domain B, there is no guarantee you would have a network waiting for you.&amp;nbsp; I am less than 100% sure here though as I think there may have been recent changes on this topic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But both of these, at least my understanding of them anyway, is predicated on the fact that these items are all &lt;STRONG&gt;VC&lt;/STRONG&gt; modules being controller by either the domain or VCEM.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don’t believe that VC imposes any such similarity rules on NON-VC modules under which the SAS Switches would be categorized.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Along those lines, if you had Brocade FC switches in the same chassis as Flex-10 modules, those would not have to be identical in order to stack a second Flex-10 chassis, because VC is not controlling the Fibre Channel modules or HBAs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Any other comments or suggestions?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:41:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chuckk281</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-03-12T00:41:07Z</dc:date>
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