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    <title>topic Multi-Enclosure Stacking (MES) question in BladeSystem - General</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/bladesystem-general/multi-enclosure-stacking-mes-question/m-p/2372747#M33140</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dave had a Multi-Enclosure Stacking question for Virtual Connect:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;***********************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If we use Virtual Connect Flex-10 in the primary bays 1 &amp;amp; 2, but use FlexFabric modules or VC-Ethernet or Fibre Channel modules in the bays 1 &amp;amp; 2 of the other enclosures, then how can we move profiles between enclosures?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is different modules in bays 1 &amp;amp; 2 allowed in the second, third and forth enclosure?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We would not be able to move profiles to other enclosure(s), each would need its own. Are there built in safe guards to prevent this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have a site that wants to stack two enclosures. The first/primary is in production with Flex-10/VC-FC modules. The new enclosure has VC FlexFabric modules&amp;nbsp;and plans to use Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If this is allowed for MES Domains then will this affect the &amp;nbsp;1b/2b CNA ports of the primary Flex-10 modules?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Am I reading the document wrong or does it need to be updated?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**********************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vincent responded:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The statements you highlight refer to the fact that the original VC 1/10 modules cannot run VCM in a MES domain. And yes, enclosures in a MES domain can have different VC Ethernet modules, and still allow profile movement. Remember that when you move a profile in a MES (unlike in a VCEM DG), the server still uses the same VC Ethernet networks and uplinks: for example if a profile assigned to a server in enc0 has connections through uplinks in enc0:1 and you move the profile to a server in enc1, it will still connect through the uplinks in enc0:1 via the stacking links. You could have a problem if the profile has many Ethernet connections and enc0:1 is Flex-10 while enc1:1 is 1/10, some connections might remain unmapped but that’s only a warning, not a critical error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now that’s true only of Ethernet connectivity. For FC there’s no stacking so the MES rules state that all enclosures in the domain must have the same VC-FC modules in the same slots. And a FlexFabric module is BOTH an Ethernet module and a FC module, so in your example you would indeed have a problem. In fact, I’m not sure VCM would let you import the new enclosure in the existing domain because of the different VC-FC placement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this makes sense.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Other comments or questions?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Link to the MES technical document: &lt;A target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02102153/c02102153.pdf"&gt;http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02102153/c02102153.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>chuckk281</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-04-19T15:12:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Multi-Enclosure Stacking (MES) question</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/bladesystem-general/multi-enclosure-stacking-mes-question/m-p/2372747#M33140</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dave had a Multi-Enclosure Stacking question for Virtual Connect:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;***********************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If we use Virtual Connect Flex-10 in the primary bays 1 &amp;amp; 2, but use FlexFabric modules or VC-Ethernet or Fibre Channel modules in the bays 1 &amp;amp; 2 of the other enclosures, then how can we move profiles between enclosures?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is different modules in bays 1 &amp;amp; 2 allowed in the second, third and forth enclosure?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We would not be able to move profiles to other enclosure(s), each would need its own. Are there built in safe guards to prevent this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have a site that wants to stack two enclosures. The first/primary is in production with Flex-10/VC-FC modules. The new enclosure has VC FlexFabric modules&amp;nbsp;and plans to use Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If this is allowed for MES Domains then will this affect the &amp;nbsp;1b/2b CNA ports of the primary Flex-10 modules?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Am I reading the document wrong or does it need to be updated?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;**********************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vincent responded:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The statements you highlight refer to the fact that the original VC 1/10 modules cannot run VCM in a MES domain. And yes, enclosures in a MES domain can have different VC Ethernet modules, and still allow profile movement. Remember that when you move a profile in a MES (unlike in a VCEM DG), the server still uses the same VC Ethernet networks and uplinks: for example if a profile assigned to a server in enc0 has connections through uplinks in enc0:1 and you move the profile to a server in enc1, it will still connect through the uplinks in enc0:1 via the stacking links. You could have a problem if the profile has many Ethernet connections and enc0:1 is Flex-10 while enc1:1 is 1/10, some connections might remain unmapped but that’s only a warning, not a critical error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now that’s true only of Ethernet connectivity. For FC there’s no stacking so the MES rules state that all enclosures in the domain must have the same VC-FC modules in the same slots. And a FlexFabric module is BOTH an Ethernet module and a FC module, so in your example you would indeed have a problem. In fact, I’m not sure VCM would let you import the new enclosure in the existing domain because of the different VC-FC placement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this makes sense.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*******************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Other comments or questions?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Link to the MES technical document: &lt;A target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02102153/c02102153.pdf"&gt;http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02102153/c02102153.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chuckk281</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-04-19T15:12:48Z</dc:date>
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