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    <title>topic The radius of image of a circle under mobius transformation in Software Defined Networking</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/software-defined-networking/the-radius-of-image-of-a-circle-under-mobius-transformation/m-p/7145422#M2539</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A Mobius transformation of the plane takes&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;↦&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;b&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;z↦az+bcz+d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;. These are known to take circles to circles, but given an explicit circle, how do we compute the radius.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let's parameterize our circle by&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;=&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;e&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;π&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;n&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;z(t)=z0+re2πint&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;. What is the radius and center of the image circle?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;b&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML MJX_Assistive_MathML_Block"&gt;az(t)+bcz(t)+d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am looking for a computational proof that the image is a circle so I can find the (Euclidean) radius and centerIn my application, I have an approximate circle&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;{&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;e&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;π&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;n&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;∈&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;Z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;{z0+e2πint:t∈1NZ}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;where&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;is a large number. If we act the Mobius transformation pointwise, these spaces will no longer be evenly spaced out. So I decided it's better to compute the Euclidean center and radius if possible.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:04:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ObviousKiwi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-08-11T12:04:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The radius of image of a circle under mobius transformation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/software-defined-networking/the-radius-of-image-of-a-circle-under-mobius-transformation/m-p/7145422#M2539</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A Mobius transformation of the plane takes&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;↦&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;b&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;z↦az+bcz+d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;. These are known to take circles to circles, but given an explicit circle, how do we compute the radius.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let's parameterize our circle by&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;=&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;e&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;π&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;n&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;z(t)=z0+re2πint&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;. What is the radius and center of the image circle?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;b&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML MJX_Assistive_MathML_Block"&gt;az(t)+bcz(t)+d&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am looking for a computational proof that the image is a circle so I can find the (Euclidean) radius and centerIn my application, I have an approximate circle&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;{&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;e&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;π&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;n&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;∈&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mfrac"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mn"&gt;1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="texatom"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;Z&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mo"&gt;}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;{z0+e2πint:t∈1NZ}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;where&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="math"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mrow"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="mi"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="MJX_Assistive_MathML"&gt;N&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;is a large number. If we act the Mobius transformation pointwise, these spaces will no longer be evenly spaced out. So I decided it's better to compute the Euclidean center and radius if possible.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:04:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/software-defined-networking/the-radius-of-image-of-a-circle-under-mobius-transformation/m-p/7145422#M2539</guid>
      <dc:creator>ObviousKiwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-08-11T12:04:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The radius of image of a circle under mobius transformation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/software-defined-networking/the-radius-of-image-of-a-circle-under-mobius-transformation/m-p/7145424#M2540</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2047519"&gt;@ObviousKiwi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's really fascinating what you are doing, but how is it related to the HPE Networking?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:07:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/software-defined-networking/the-radius-of-image-of-a-circle-under-mobius-transformation/m-p/7145424#M2540</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ivan_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-08-11T12:07:01Z</dc:date>
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