topic Re: simplivity version within the same federation in HPE SimpliVity

simplivity version within the same federation

jlangmead — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:26:56 GMT

Hi
Is it supported to join a new simplivity cluster running 4.0.1u1 (consisting of 2 nodes) into a federation that is running an existing cluster running simplivity version 4.0.1. The vcenter plugin is version 4.0.1.444

Thanks

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

Rajini_Saini — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:56:54 GMT

Hi @jlangmead,

Thank you for choosing HPE.

Yes, we can deploy a new cluster with 4.0.1 U1, if the existing environment is 4.0.1.

Please refer 'Mixed Software Versions in a Federation' Page26 - https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=a00095520en_us

regards,
Rajini Saini

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

jlangmead — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 09:28:16 GMT

Thanks - that's great.

I'm interested to understand how the mixed environments work with the vCenter plug-in and arbiter versions. Does the mixed support also include the new cluster 4.0.1u1 cluster using the 4.0.1 arbiter and 4.0.1 vCenter plugin versions

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

kylerj — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:17:24 GMT

Both the 4.0.1 plugin and arbiter should work fine with the 4.0.1u1 cluster as much has not changed behind the scenes specific to the database and arbiter logic between these 2 versions.

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

jlangmead — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 13:19:28 GMT

Thanks - I have one further related question.

I see that 4.10 now supports the arbiter running on Windows 2019 - is it supported to redeploy the arbiter using version 4.10 so it can be hosted on a Windows 2019 platform without needing to upgrade all our clusters to 4.10 also?

We don't want or need to upgrade the Simplivity clusters to 4.10 but need to decommission our Windows 2016 servers and replace these with Windows 2019 platforms as part of our refresh program.

so, what I'm asking is can a Simplivity 4.10 arbiter be used with 4.0 simplivity clusters?

thanks

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

Rajini_Saini — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:47:53 GMT

Hi @jlangmead ,

Thank you for choosing HPE.

4.0.1U1 arbiter supports - Windows Server 2016, 2012 R2, 2008 R2, Windows 10
4.1.0 arbiter supports - Windows Server 2019, 2016, 2012 R2, 2008 R2, Windows 10

The arbiter can be installed one per federation or one per cluster.

If you are planning to have a single arbiter for a federation [with 4.0.1U1&4.1.0] then you must have an arbiter on 2016 or below supported OS.
If you planning to have an arbiter on a cluster level, then the 4.0.1U1 cluster can have an arbiter running in 2016 and for a 4.1.0 cluster you can install an arbiter on the 2019 machine.

For more details please refer below links: Page16
https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docLocale=en_US&docId=a00106795en_us
https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docLocale=en_US&docId=a00099030en_us

regards,
Rajini Saini

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

jlangmead — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:58:50 GMT

Many thanks - understood

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

steez — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:24:22 GMT

Hello, I have a similar issue.

However we have 2 sites, each has 1 cluster, linked via vCenter linked mode.

ESXi 6.7, vCenter 6.7, Omnistack 4.0.1 on all hosts.

We want to upgrade Omnistack to the newest 4.1.0U1, vSphere to version 7.

I have a question - can I update only one site, wait a while and the update the another? This is due one site is an active production site, and the other is used solely as a Simplivity backup repository for DR. We would like to start with the DR site first, wait a while to see that no errors come up and then continue with the production site.

If possible, would the upgrade look something like this -

Upgrade Arbiters on both sites, upgrade vCenter plugin on both vCenters
Update server firmware + Omnistack software on DR site
Update vCenter to 7.0 on DR site
Update Simplivity ESXi to 7.0

This way we would have a mixed deployment, however we would really preffer to evaluate the upgrade at first. The question is - will the federation work as intended in scope of reporting to Infosight, doing remote backups correctly and so on.

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

kylerj — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:51:35 GMT

Hi @steez

Yes, this is possible and supported as per page 26 of our interoperability guide:

https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=a00095520en_us

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

steez — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:55:14 GMT

Hello @kylerj , thank you very much for such swift reply.

I have seen that document, just wanted to confirm with others and to see if i'm not missing something. thanks.

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

steez — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 15:15:47 GMT

Hello @kylerj ,

To be 100% sure..

On 4.1.0U1 Interoperabilty guide, it is mentioned that the current version we have 4.0.1U1, will not be compatible with the vCenter 7. In our case all production site components will be compatible with each other (vCenter, ESXi, Omnistack), and same will apply to DR site. The difference will be that the production site will run on 4.0.1U1 and DR on 4.1.0U1, making them not compatible from vCenter side (mixed-mode), does that affect simplivity federation?

Will that work correctly - will Simplivity nodes be able to see each other in the federation and do remote backups to the newer site? Im nervous about the vCenter part.

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

gustenar — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:34:54 GMT

I think it's better to keep the same version on both vCenters (the latest one). The plugins are backwards compatible to some extend and the one 4.1.0U1 should be able to detected nodes in previous version.

Re: simplivity version within the same federation

steez — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:39:03 GMT

@gustenar , thanks for the input.

The issue in my case is that we want to evaluate the update for some time and the apply it to our production site. We would update both vCenters to 7.0, however it is not supported on 4.0.1U1 (site we wish wait before the update for now)

Will the 4.0.1U1 nodes be able to send the remote backups to the updated 4.1.0U1 nodes?