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Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

 
CPA-UK
Occasional Advisor

Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hi all...

 

First off I'm a total new boy to building a Blade, and I was wondering if anyone could just give me a quick hand up as to the very basics of this...?

 

What I have is a C7000 Blade, with 128GB RAM, 8 x BL460c Blades, 1 x Storage Blade, 3 x 1.2TB HDD's... I also have a copy of MS SERVER 2012 R2 DataCentre...

 

I need some dead simple help regarding how the various bit install and where...

 

My plan is to use the Storage Blade and the 3 x 1.2TB drives as a shared storage area and to boot the Blade from this..., and to have the Blades setup for each of my customers.., the bit I can't get my head round is how do all the various bits and in what order...

 

What has confused me is the inital setup of the Storage Blade and the first Blade...

 

My understanding is that you install VSA on the Storage Blade first...?, how exactly do you do this..?, and from where.., do you plug your first Blade in...?, and run the install from there..?

 

Then once you have the Storage Blade setup..., how do you setup your first Blade..?.., as I don't want any drives in the front of the Blade..., I want it to boot from the shared storage...

 

As you can tell, I have got my head in a complete knot with this..., I'm very familiar with setting up standalone Hyper-V servers with multiple VM's but never toched anything like this before..., and I just need someone to get me started with some dead simple instructions... I don't want to go in too deep just yet, but just the basics of what installs where etc..

 

I really would appricate some help...

 

Thanks in advance...

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Torsten.
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

What exactly is your "storage blade"?

 

Usually these are disk chassis, so these disks are physically connected to a single server (e.g. D2220sb).

 

What interconnects do you have?

 

 


Hope this helps!
Regards
Torsten.

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CPA-UK
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hi Torsten, thanks for taking the time to assist...

 

This is what we are going for..

 

HP PROLIANT C7000 BLADE ENCLOSURE - 10U RACK MOUNTABLE
2 x CISCO CATALYST BLADE SWITCH 3020 GIGABIT
1 x CONTROLLER MODULE CARD
10 x C7000 FANS
6 x C7000 POWER SUPPLIES
1 X RACK KIT
1 x HP STORAGEWORKS D2200sb - 12 BAY 2.5" SAS SATA STORAGE BLADE SERVER - AP880A
3 x 2.5" 1.2TB 10K 6GBPS SAS HARD DRIVES
8 x HP PROLIANT BL460C G6 BLADE SERVERS EACH WITH;2 x INTEL XEON E5504 CPU 2.0GHZ 4CORE 4MB PROCESSORS; 8GB OF PC3-8500R RAM
1x SMART ARRAY P410 CONTROLLER 256MB
1 x HP BLC7000 ADMIN MODULE - 414055-001
HP / CISCO CATALYST BLADE SWITCH 3020 GIGABIT FOR C-CLASS BLADESYSTEM -
403321-B22 - 432904-001

 

Hope that is what you were after...

 

Regards

Colin

Torsten.
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

I'm really not an expert for ESX and similar.

 

However, the storage blade is not a shared device at all, but connected to a single server only.

AFAIK for VSA without shared storage you need the same amount of local space for each host.

A single device (like your storage blade) is a risky SPOF anyway.


Hope this helps!
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CPA-UK
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Mmm, I must say that is not how I understand it work...

 

http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04111597

 

This seems to say that it is a device that can be used for shared storage across mulitple servers..., and this acts as a local SAN...

 

Any other help here would be much appreciated...

Jimmy Vance
HPE Pro

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

 The  D2200 storage blade is a direct attach device. It will conenct to one server. You then load the HP VSA on that server and it becoames an iSCSI SAN that can be used by the other blades




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Torsten.
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

yes, there is hp vsa and vmware vsa, both similar, but a single storage remains a risky spof, once the storage server is down, all your servers are down. double everythong, at least.

Hope this helps!
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Torsten.

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CPA-UK
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Oh, I see..., so how do you get round all this...?

 

You only have two slots in the front of each individual Blade.., and that is not enough to do too much...?, where does the O/S boot from..?, and can you not boot from the SAN...?

 

Sorry, if all these are daft questions..., as I've never used one I just can't see what goes where etc...

Torsten.
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

how about a second d2200 for redundancy? no matter if you use hp or vmware vsa.

Hope this helps!
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Torsten.

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CPA-UK
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

I guess you could..., it's just all getting very expensive...

 

The reason I was heading down this route is that we were advised by an HP partner that the Storge Blade was the answer to the SAN type solution...

 

I'm even more lost to be honest.. :-(

Torsten.
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Basically you can set up HP VSA on the blade connected to the storage and provide the space via iSCSI to the other hosts.

 

But the problem is availability.

 

Once the storage goes down for any reason, your complete environment has lost the storage, hence the server farm will be down.

 

For better HA you need at least a second storage for redundancy.

 

This problem is not related to the blades, you would have the same with standalone servers.


Hope this helps!
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Server-Support
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hi CPA man,

 

Please let us know which document that you end up using and please share it here since I also would like to know it more how to setup the Blades server from scratch or out of the box.

BK_HPE
LSW

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hello@CPA-UK

 

HP has several documents to help you in the installation of your blades and enclosures.  I recommend taking a look at the HP BladeSystem c7000 Enclosure Setup and Installation Guide to begin with and then I would also take a look at the HP ProLiant BL460c G7 Server Blade Installation Instructions

 

The BladeSystem C7000 Enclosure Setup and installation guide document gives you the planning of the installation:  warning, caution, and important messages, rack requirements, Rack-free environment requirements, temperature requirements, power, and grounding requirements and much more information on installation, troubleshooting, support and other resources.

 

HP ProLiant BL460c G7 Server Blade Installation Instructions gives you an overview, installing server blade options, bay numbering, and device mapping for the HP BladeSystem c7000 enclosure, the document also talks about connecting to the network.  Please let me know if I am able to be of any more assistance to you.

I am an HP employee in the ISS, Storage and Networking group, and I love helping our customers. If my post helps you, please mark it as an Accepted Solution. If you need further insight into HP Solutions, please send me a private message or contact an HP Solutions Expert.
Server-Support
Super Advisor

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hi BK,

What about the firmware upgrade steps and guidelines ?

Is there any steps by steps guide to perform it safely while minimizing downtime ?
CPA-UK
Occasional Advisor

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Thanks, I always appreciate any help that is offered....

 

I've been busy reading my thru a lot of the guides but then we hit something that I've never heard of before and I start to lose the plot..

 

All I want to do is to setup 2 Blades and a Shared Storage..., nothing complicated..., really just want to get my hear round how it is all put together...

 

Would I be right in thinking... (in very simple terms...)

1. Plug the lot in..

2. Run up the Admin Console

3. Install VSA on the Shared Storage (AP880A) 3 x 1.2TB HDD

4. Setup the first Blade and point the VM to the Shared Storage that is now hanging off the newly created ISCSI

5. Repeat 4. with the second Blade

 

Does that sound right, or have I missed it completely...?

 

As we have not brought a Blade yet and I have never worked on one, it's hard to picture were to start in very simple English...

 

Thanks again...

BK_HPE
LSW

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Hi @CPA-UK

 

I believe your simple terms to are correct.  Unfortunately, HP in the US does not have any more information to provide.  However, I do recommend utilizing the Contact HP Worldwide document to find an HP Support or Sales for any other concerns or sales you may need in the future with HP.

 

@Server-Support

 

I believe that you can also benefit from looking at the HP ProLiant BL460c G7 Server Blade Installation Instructions for the installation.  For the firmware upgrade, I recommend looking at the HP System and Server Management Software HP Smart Update Manager (HP SUM). HP SUM has an integrated discovery engine that finds the installed hardware and current versions of firmware and software on target servers and identifies associated targets that should be updated in conjunction with each other, to avoid interdependence issues.  

 

I am an HP employee in the ISS, Storage and Networking group, and I love helping our customers. If my post helps you, please mark it as an Accepted Solution. If you need further insight into HP Solutions, please send me a private message or contact an HP Solutions Expert.
Jimmy Vance
HPE Pro

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Pretty much, but you don't install VSA on the storage blade. It is installed on the server that is conencted directly to the storage blade. The storage blade just holds drives, it isn't a server. In your scenario, you really need 3 blades. Two to host VM's and one to host VSA

 

 




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Server-Support
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Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

Thanks all for the clarification and help.
BK_HPE
LSW

Re: Never setup a Blade C7000 before...

@Server-Support

 

You are very welcome, if you need any more assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me, I will happy to assist you or locate another HP Specialist in your area.

I am an HP employee in the ISS, Storage and Networking group, and I love helping our customers. If my post helps you, please mark it as an Accepted Solution. If you need further insight into HP Solutions, please send me a private message or contact an HP Solutions Expert.