Oracle 9iAS

[Tim Medford]

We are currently running Forms6i in a standard in a standard client-server format. The clients are all windows 2000 workstation, the server is Oracle 8.1.7.4 running on HPUX 11i.

We will be upgrading to Oracle 9iAS later this year. We are trying to decide whether to run the app server on Windoze or HPUX?

My personal bias (and I do mean BIAS)...would be to use HPUX because I have total control over that environment. I also have a fair idea of how to monitor and tune HPUX. If I put it on windows, I basically just have to cross my fingers and hope it works right.

I understand back at the Oracle labs they wrote this app server on Linux and Windows and then ported it to the other platforms. This almost makes me lean toward windows.

Does anyone have any unbiased opinions they can share regarding this product in terms of windows vs. hpux?

Big points for meaningful contributions.

Thanks, Tim

[Michael Steele_2]

Here's one subjective metric that I find useful: GOOD SUPPORT can be foretold by whom the manufacturer's clients are.

Veritas Netbackup, for instance, 80% are SUN clients so Solaris O/S gets the best support when it comes to bug fixes, patches, new releases, etc, and I believe over shadows HP-UX fixes for the same product.

So the question is, are most Oracle clients using 9iAS on the .... (* what O/S ? *) Assume the best support will be provided to these clients.

[Yogeeraj_1 · Accepted solution]

hi,

let me share my experiences.

Today, it seems like support on Windows and Solaris platforms for 9iAS is better than on HP-UX.

Design and Deployment of Forms in windows environment is very straight-forward. No problem with fonts, printing, etc.

But talking about performance, you should do your own load tests!

Remember that once you have configured your Application server to run on HP-UX properly, painful but it works like a charm!

Best Regards
Yogeeraj

[Printaporn_1]

I got many trouble install it in NT.
but after that overall usage is Okey.
But we only use for discoverer and not too high accessing.

[Alexander M. Ermes]

Hi there.
Why not use an Intel station with Linux ?
You will get nice offers from HP for this solution.
Rgds
Alexander M. Ermes

[Indira Aramandla]

We had a client site which were running Forms6i with Oracle 8.1.7.4 RDBMS Server, and Oracle 9iAS Application server on Sun machines with Solaris 2.8.

They had very minimal issues with the complete installation and configuration. I prefer UNIX environment than Windows.

And since you have good exposure to HP-UX, and are in control of the OS, it will aid you a lot to install, setup, tune and maintain the 9iAS server and configuration. And the other thing is you do not have to put up with the registry changes each time the configuration change is done.

[Ravi_8]

Hi,

UNIX environment is always better than windows.
as for as oracle9i is concerned, i felt that maintenence of databases on UNIX (hp-ux,solaris,aix,linux)is easier than on windows.

[R. Allan Hicks]

I bought 9iAS Release 1 for HP-UX for a trial intranet application of our Internet applications. Messed with it for a while. Went to the admin class for it. Mid way through the week, they announced Release 2. I was told all through my trials with Release 1 things would be better on Release 2.

Got Release 2 and went to install it. Oopps, Release 2 requires a 64bit machine. Went and got a 64 bit machine. Installed 9.0.2.0.1. Oracle has three installs Infrastructure, App Server and Developer. The recommend that you install these over at least two machines. I've talked to people at the Southeastern Oracle Users' Group meeting in Charlotte last month. The opinions that I got there was that it would run on one machine. Oracle doesn't support it, but it will work. I've gotten it to install on one box. Took about 10 Gbytes for the Oracle stuff.

The box has 2 Gbyte of ram. That is a good start. I have nothing else running, and it takes pretty much all of the memory. Having 5 apache servers for each of the 3 installs doesn't help.

The heart of the system is yet another enterprise manager for 9iAS. No, it not quite the same as the regular enterprise manager. It takes several seconds per page to build the EM pages. But it is the way that you control 9iAS. Hopefully, it will improve. I assume that the regular applications will run better.

Even though my experience has not been pleasant, I hope that Oracle will get some things working better. I am so glad for the iTAR process. And in it's defense, I haven't had the release 2 training. I spend a great deal of time reading manuals and notes.

Being a fan of anything that is not MS, I am not unbiased. I haven't tried an application server on NT or 2000 to compare what it's like verses HP. However, as the other respondents have told you, Oracle will focus on the largest install base. And despite what Larry and Carly may tell you, it ain't HP. I continue to be hopeful that Release 3 or 4 will do the trick (they tell me release 4 will fix everything) or I figure out what I'm doing wrong. I???d rather face the Internet with a HP-UX box than NT. I???m told that the hackers say that NT stands for ???Nice Try???. I say go with HP, but be sure to have enough memory and don???t try to install it on one box.


Thanks for the opportunity to vent. I feel so much better now.

-Good luck