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HDD for VA7410

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alin_5
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HDD for VA7410

Hello,
I have a VA7410 storage. Can I put in VA7410 286714-B22 (72GB 10K U320 Pluggable Hard Drive)

Thank you,
alin
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor
Solution

Re: HDD for VA7410

No, you can not, sorry.

The VA7410 requires fibre channel disk drives in a HP pre-merger form factor. The 286714-B22 is a parallel SCSI disk drive in a 'Digital/Compaq classic' universal disk drive carrier.
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Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi Alin
see my attached file for all possible disk type for VA7410. That information i get form HP product bulletin.
HTH
tienna
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi Tienna
where can I find the HP product bulletin.
Alin
Marco Hogeveen_1
Trusted Contributor
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

HP Product bulletin is free distribute, You can get it at
http://www.desktop-assistance.com/hpprodbulletin.html
Register and enjoy.
tienna
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

thanks to all,
so, where can I find informations about maximum transfer rate for VA7410 ?
thank you
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

VA7410 Speed:
If your system is installed CommandView SDM
run this command
[serverb:/] armdsp -a VA002
....
....
Controller At M/C1:
Status:_______________________________Good
Serial Number:________________________00PR05B51101
Vendor ID:____________________________HP
Product ID:___________________________A6189A
Product Revision:_____________________HP19
Firmware Revision:____________________38370HP19P1031031142
Manufacturing Product Code:___________IJMTU00013
Controller Type:______________________HP StorageWorks Virtual Array 7400
Battery Charger Firmware Revision:____4.3
Front Port At M/C1.H1:
Status:_____________________________Good
Port Instance:______________________0
Hard Address:_______________________110
Link State:_________________________Link Up
Node WWN:___________________________50060b000014ea2c
Port WWN:___________________________50060b00001bebd2
Topology:___________________________Private Loop
Data Rate:__________________________1 GBit/sec
Port ID:____________________________110
Device Host Name:___________________ipcaspa
Hardware Path:______________________0/10/0/0.1.18.39.0.0.0
Device Path:________________________/dev/dsk/c4t0d0
Back Port At M/C1.J1:
Status:_____________________________Good
Port Instance:______________________0
Hard Address:_______________________125
Link State:_________________________Link Up
Node WWN:___________________________50060b000014ea2c
Port WWN:___________________________50060b00001bebd3
Topology:___________________________Private Loop
Data Rate:__________________________1 GBit/sec
Port ID:____________________________125
Battery at M/C1.B1:
....
...
PORTS

Settings for port M/C1.H1:
Port ID:______________________________110
Behavior:_____________________________HPUX
Topology:_____________________________Private Loop
Queue Full Threshold:_________________750
Data Rate:____________________________1 GBit/sec

Settings for port M/C1.J1:
Data Rate:____________________________1 GBit/sec

Settings for port M/C2.H1:
Port ID:______________________________108
Behavior:_____________________________HPUX
Topology:_____________________________Private Loop
Queue Full Threshold:_________________750
Data Rate:____________________________1 GBit/sec

Settings for port M/C2.J1:
Data Rate:____________________________1 GBit/sec
...
HTH
tienna
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Tienna,
I look for "official" specifications. Specifications they are on HP site.
Thanks
Alin
Naveej.K.A
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi Alin,

2Gbps is the maximum speed at which VA7410 talks with the host.

http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11558_div/11558_div.html#Product%20Highlights

Regards,
Naveej
practice makes a man perfect!!!
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

OK. try this link and view my attached file
http://h200007.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/lpg28923/lpg28923.pdf
PAGE 74.
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hello again,
I have a VA7410 storage which have 10 x HDD 73GB. What is the minimum number of HDD (73GB or 146GB) which I can put in VA7410? Can I put 1 x HDD 146 GB? Where can I find informations (tutorials, how-to, etc) about I add this HDD to the space of storage
Thank again
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

The VA7410 requires a minimum number of 10 disk drives. It is written in the specifications at HP's web site.

http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/va7110/specifications.html

(The link says '7110', but the content is for both, the VA7110 and the VA7410).
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alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

So, I have a storage VA7410 with 10 HDD (73GB) and now I want to add other HDD. Is ok if (Can I) I add only one HDD? The capacity of HDD must be 73GB or can it have 146GB ?
Thanks
Thayanidhi
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi,

How many enclosures you have?
If it is main only, then 15 disks are possible in total.
If you have 10 already, you can add 5 more, preferably same capacity and speed.
If you mix the capacity then you may not be utilizing the larger capacity, especially if you are adding only one.

REgds
TT
Attitude (not aptitude) determines altitude.
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi,

I have one enclosure, and it is main only.
I have 10 HDD (73GB)already.
The questions are:
Can I put in storage and use only one 146GB HDD?
Can I put in storage and use only one 73GB HDD?
If I can't put and use only one 146GB HDD what is the minimum number of HDD which I must put in storage?

Regards,
Alin
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi alin again.
Can. BUT VA7410 has 2 RG (redundancy group) You shold consider which slot you insert disk to
1. run this command
#armdsp your_VA_ALIAS
#ioscan -fnC disk
#vgdisplay vgXX
vgXX is vg you want to extend lv.
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Hi Tienna,
If I run the commands you say me, I add a new HDD and grow-up the space of storage?
What is your opinion about this:
I have one enclosure, and it is main only.
I have 10 HDD (73GB)already.
The questions are:
Can I put in storage and use only one 146GB HDD?
Can I put in storage and use only one 73GB HDD?
If I can't put and use only one 146GB HDD what is the minimum number of HDD which I must put in storage?

Thanks many more again
Alin
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

I think VA7410 has two RG (like VA7400)(refer attached file). To determine correctly i need you run this command
#armdsp -a your_VA_name
then check number of RG (FOR EXAMPLE)
CAPACITY USAGE

Total Disk Enclosures:________________2

Redundancy Group:_____________________1
Total Disks:________________________11
Total Physical Size:________________367.164 GB
Allocated to Regular LUNs:__________245.097 GB
Allocated as Business Copies:_______0 bytes
Used as Active Hot Spare:___________33.375 GB
Used for Redundancy:________________87.832 GB
Unallocated (Available for LUNs):___880 MB

Redundancy Group:_____________________2
Total Disks:________________________9
Total Physical Size:________________300.407 GB
Allocated to Regular LUNs:__________190 GB
Allocated as Business Copies:_______0 bytes
Used as Active Hot Spare:___________33.375 GB
Used for Redundancy:________________76.93 GB
Unallocated (Available for LUNs):___104 MB

>> IT MEAN VA7400 HAS TWO RG(Redundancy Group)
YOUR QUESTION
Can I put in storage and use only one 146GB HDD?
>>CAN. VA7410 SUPPORT FO 146gb DISK. THIS DISK WILL BE HOT SPARE DISK (SEE ATTACHED FILE FOR CONFIG)
Can I put in storage and use only one 73GB HDD?
>> OFFCOURSE
If I can't put and use only one 146GB HDD what is the minimum number of HDD which I must put in storage?
>> ONLY NEED CONSIDER SLOT TO INSERT TO (SHOULD KEEP "Unallocated Available for LUNs" IS BIGGER THAN ONE DISK)
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Thanks Tienna again,

Where can I find for download "VA user guide and service manual" ?

Thank you
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor
Nguyen Anh Tien
Honored Contributor

Re: HDD for VA7410

HI alin
I can not remember where i got it from.
I can not attached to this thread because size is over limit
pls give me you e mail. or send mail to me at
tiennaATgmailDOTcom
HP is simple
alin_5
Advisor

Re: HDD for VA7410

Thank to all