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тАО01-07-2010 07:19 AM
тАО01-07-2010 07:19 AM
Thoughts on evaperf counters
1) evaperf quite frequently stops working via WMI and returning empty results.
We did a bit of googling around and the workaround of running "wmiadap /f" and then restarting wmi service will fix the problem at least for a couple of hours.
evaperf and running perfmon locally works fine. Reading wmi counters remotely returns empty results. Other wmi counters work fine, only the data from evaperf is broken.
2) We notice that there seems to be quite a difference between evaperf results from physicaldiskgroup (evaperf pdg) and the total storage (evaperf as).
The eva we are using for testing has only one physicaldiskgroup and it reports much lower results (both requests/sec and mb/sec than is indicated by the results of as and for the vdisks involved)
For example the by running both concurrently we see:
* pdg write and read requests return: 35 requests/sec
And at the same time we get:
* evaperf as total host requests/sec is 700
If we look at mb/sec we see similar trend.
The problem can be visualied by comparing these two images:
http://pall.sigurdsson.is/evaperf/eva-throughput.png
http://pall.sigurdsson.is/evaperf/physicaldiskgroup-throughput.png
The attached graphs show that the trend is consistent but something seems to be wrong with the scale. Our estimates show the total eva performance to be closer to actual performance.
3) As stated above, the info from evaperf as seems to be more or less accurate but sometimes we have huge spikes for a short while. It claims to be delivering total of 6gb/sec (thats gigaBYTES) which is way more than this eva4400 should be able to handle.
Here is a link that demonstrates the problem:
http://pall.sigurdsson.is/evaperf/eva-anomalies.png
does anyone have solutions to any of these?
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тАО01-07-2010 09:12 AM
тАО01-07-2010 09:12 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
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тАО01-07-2010 11:23 PM
тАО01-07-2010 11:23 PM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
The spikes could be a result of a high cach read.
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тАО01-08-2010 07:07 AM
тАО01-08-2010 07:07 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
The difference is wast (20-fold) and obvious so i did not do a detailed comparison.
Regarding the huge spikes, big cache reads seems plausible but i ruled that out because 6bytes/second is way to much for 2 4gbit fiber channel ports to deliver cache or no cache.
Also I compared the results with the activity of each virtualdisk (because vdisk counters show both cache hit and cache miss) and there are indeed spikes in the traffic but they do not add close anywhere close to these figures.
ps: Does anyone know how long the sample period is for the counters gathered for wmi? I suspect they are 1second averages but i would like to see some confirmation of this.
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тАО01-12-2010 02:03 PM
тАО01-12-2010 02:03 PM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
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тАО02-04-2010 05:58 AM
тАО02-04-2010 05:58 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
1) After three weeks of tedious debugging, HP Support kindly excused themselves with 'technically we dont support evaperf over wmi'. In other words, this was a known issue but HP has no plans to fix this issue. A very big dissappointment that was.
2) According to ITRC, The physicaldiskgroup counters are only counting 'backend io' but i have yet to get a definition of what counts a backend io. I know this is not just a matter of cached vs. uncached because my uncached traffic is 20-times higher than what the physicaldiskgroup counters indicate.
In other words, physicaldiskgroup (pdg) counters are completely useless.
3) Still working on this issue, this is propably an error in the evaperf program though.
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тАО02-04-2010 09:19 AM
тАО02-04-2010 09:19 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
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тАО02-05-2010 05:08 AM
тАО02-05-2010 05:08 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
In short, it's an online service to collect and display EVA performance data.
You can see a rough edit of the service in action on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noNlggjjFAk
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тАО03-10-2010 10:11 AM
тАО03-10-2010 10:11 AM
Re: Thoughts on evaperf counters
1) evaperf over WMI is in fact very broken and official answer by HP is they dont support it!
2) ITRC has changed their answer... Now they claim PhysicalDiskgroup counters are in fact "average of every disk in the group" not total counters for the group. Their reply was "Since there is no documentation available that claims otherwise, this is not a bug"
3) Total counters for a specific array are in fact wildly off the charts (i.e. they sometimes claim the eva is delivering 700gbytes/sec) .. This is a confirmed bug and itrc has confirmed that they are NOT planning on fixing this.
Have a nice day everyone!