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тАО07-06-2004 02:46 AM
тАО07-06-2004 02:46 AM
VA7410 variable performance
It has 2Gb of cache RAM per controller and 72 disks (30x36,30x72,12x144), configured RAID 0/1.
Periodically it shows bad sar stats through some of the 21 LUNs e.g.
device %busy avque r+w/s blks/s avwait avserv
c8t0d7 99.67 19.94 287 1407 79.21 3.47
c10t1d6 100.00 4.81 254 2215 25.65 3.86
I have verified with HP support that the i/o is going down the primary path to the VA (odd d numbers to c8, evens to c10).
As you can see there is a high queue, low number of ops, low throughput and high wait stats.
The VA queue params are set to 33 and 36, the SCSI queue_depth is still 8.
HP got me to run an armdiag on the array and they say that there is nothing wrong with it.
Sometimes these LUNs give high throughput (>60000 blocks) at low busy and waits. Other times its awful and programs take 10 times as long to run.
1. Any idea why the busy percentage is near 100?
2. Has anyone else seen this sort of performance problem?
3. Does anyone think that setting the SCSI max_queue_depth to something bigger would help, or is it a symptom of problems elsewhere?
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тАО07-06-2004 02:47 AM
тАО07-06-2004 02:47 AM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
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тАО07-06-2004 03:04 AM
тАО07-06-2004 03:04 AM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
Each RG has about 2Tb of data in it, with 200Gb free, hot spare=largest disk.
No business copy.
The i/o is coming from an informix database through KAIO, tuned up to 3000 max concurrent files / ops using IFMX_HPKAIO_NUM_REQ=3000
The performance problems do happen when a particulary heavy batch process runs in 28 parallel streams, but 2 weeks ago we never had a problem with the same problem and hadn't for the past 3 months.
What has changed last week is that I dropped and loaded a bunch of databases and bound another LUN.
The performance problems can be alleviated by bouncing the VA and server.
The server has 12x875Mhz cpus and 12Gb of RAM.
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тАО07-08-2004 10:28 AM
тАО07-08-2004 10:28 AM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
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тАО07-08-2004 10:22 PM
тАО07-08-2004 10:22 PM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
No i/o errors reported in the syslog.
The filesystems have up to 100Gb free, although it can vary by 60Gb per day, because of all the data loading/unloading that goes on.
dbc_max_pct/min_pct is 10/5 on 12Gb of RAM. 5/5 would be better, but I think its pretty marginal as it is, since nearly all the i/o is raw from database to logical volume, bypassing filesystems and buffers.
We have 600Mb of RAM free, as indicated by vmstat showing 150000 free pages, pageouts never happen.
The other thing that happened is we added an extra tray of disks to the array.
Does anyone know how the VA balances existing data across a new tray of disks, when it gets added?
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тАО07-08-2004 10:37 PM
тАО07-08-2004 10:37 PM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
I found the following quite interesting:
http://search.hp.com/redirect.html?url=http%3A//forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do%3FthreadId%3D218262&qt=VA7410&hit=4
Regards,
Bernhard
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тАО07-08-2004 11:02 PM
тАО07-08-2004 11:02 PM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
Yes my boss bought 12x146s because it gave the most storage for the money, which was so tight he couldn't afford the other 3 disks to fill up the DS2405.
So we have the 146Gb disks with 4 times the i/o of the 36Gb disks. Surely other people must be adding more trays to their arrays as well, with larger disks.
This alone does not explain the variation in performance, because sometimes it is fine and reboots make it go quicker for a while.
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тАО07-09-2004 02:00 AM
тАО07-09-2004 02:00 AM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
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тАО07-09-2004 03:16 AM
тАО07-09-2004 03:16 AM
Re: VA7410 variable performance
We had to free up space in one database instance to make room for a big process over the weekend.
Deleting databases is not the same as deleting a LUN, as it is just a logical delete and the VA thinks the space is still allocated.
We *may* have had a consequential issue with read-modify-writes at this time. They cause 6 times the writes to disks, than a fresh write into newly allocated space.
Well thats the current theory anyway.
We have 21 LUNs in 2Tb of space, approx 50/50 in RG1 and RG2.
I understand about the cache/disk writes. but we have run the same process several times before with no performance degredation so that isnt the reason.