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I google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my google search?

 
Ticked_off
Occasional Visitor

I google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my google search?

Where is the information I need in google I see the post started in the forum. It goes here and see nothing about it. Try to search for it in this page and comes back showing nothing?

This forum is not good compared to before what is the secret to finding posts on here now?

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Stephan_
Regular Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Hi,
the old links like itrc.hp.com... does not longer work due to the fact that Google cache is just outdated since the migration. At least as far as I know HP or any other company has no influence on it, this will change by time as the cache get's updated.

All links inside the new forums leading to forums posts gets updated from current to old ones, this process is already running but for 2.5 million posts this will need some time as well.

Until this is done I found a "might work" solution to translate old links: http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Community-Feedback-Suggestions/Google-results-shows-ITRC-old-URL/m-p/4806797#M619

Some official information regarding this can be found here: http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Announcements/ITRC-redirect-announcement/m-p/4805811

Some more hints in my signature. Best results for searches from my experience is switching to the category/forum where you're problem belongs to and enter the search phrase as in Google to the top right box, give it a short time for suggestions before pressing enter.

 

hth,

Stephan

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Sebastian Muniz
Occasional Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Between HP and Oracle I think there is an explicit campaing of disinformation an documentation trashing.

Oracle breakes dos.sun.com that had been there for the last 20 years.

HP is trashin the only usefull resource of information they had. Why not keeping a read only copy?

Expecting google to index it again is stupid..

 

Ok, sorry. I am very very angry with you people..

Doing this and saying "I DONT CARE ABOUT MY CUSTOMERS" is just the same.

 

Stephan.
Honored Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?


@Sebastian Muniz wrote:

 

Expecting google to index it again is stupid..

 

 



Why should a new website not get indexed by Google? You can already find a lot results pointing to the new site, so they are already caching the page.

 

Best,

Stephan

Sebastian Muniz
Occasional Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?





@Stephan. wrote:

@Sebastian Muniz wrote:

 

Expecting google to index it again is stupid..

 

 



Why should a new website not get indexed by Google? You can already find a lot results pointing to the new site, so they are already caching the page.

 

Best,

Stephan



Google is a help, not a tool an enterprise can rely on. Speaking of which, the search function of the hp sites are quite braindead. Hope it gets better now.

Thanks

Sebastian

 

BGroot
Esteemed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Even thou Goodle is a tool, we can not speed up the indexing. With regards to search functionality what are you having problems finding on the HP sites? Perhaps I can help you.

Peter Marko
Honored Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

I don't get why your arguments are based on slow indexing of search engines. You definitely skipped the automatic redirection of original content while switching to a new server/system. You decided to migrate, you were the owners of source forum as well as the destination community. No other company/site was involved. Of course making the old forum dead speeds up the indexing that should not be the way you took.
StephanGee
Occasional Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

It can't be that difficult to code when you arrive from google that what you've searched there is automatically searched in the new forum.

 

This should help till google is reindexing the site. At the moment i have to copy and past my search to the new search which is an extra step.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Greets

Stephan

Stephan.
Honored Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?


@StephanGee wrote:

It can't be that difficult to code when you arrive from google that what you've searched there is automatically searched in the new forum.

 

This should help till google is reindexing the site. At the moment i have to copy and past my search to the new search which is an extra step.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Greets

Stephan


Just skip the google step?

 

My 2 cent,

Stephan

StephanGee
Occasional Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Yes. But here is not always the answer so i can search many forums ;)

 

I have an "I love google" tshirt :)

Hein van den Heuvel
Honored Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Bill wrote:

 

"Even thou Goodle is a tool, we can not speed up the indexing. With regards to search functionality what are you having problems finding on the HP sites? Perhaps I can help you."

 

It's easy Bill.

Just tag each old migrated post with with it's old ITRC threadid. 

Or stick it in the text or subject if you have to: [itrc=1234567]

I think that would help a lot.

 

It could help even more, if I could indicate to search for a tag, but for now it is not clear to me how to do that!?

Where is the 'By Tag' filter?

 

Is there and 'escape' in the search string like gmails:  inbox:xxx or subject:yyy, or googles +x -y

 

Hein

 

KathyL1
Valued Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Case in point:

I used Google to search forums11.itrc.hp.com for information about defining disk layout version in LVM and, in the results list, is a link to a post made in LVM and VXVM board June 2010 (attachment 1).

 

The link to the thread is: [Broken link removed on 03-23-2017 by Admin]

 

Unfortunately the Google cached information is not available so I searched the whole Community for the exact phrase 'define disk layout' but got zero results.

 

I then browsed the LVM and VXVM board with the board option set to 'Sort by latest post' but, the topic I am trying to find is simply not there (attachment 2).

 

Very frustrating!!

Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Hmm, I couldn't find it either.

BGroot
Esteemed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Hi,

 

I also couldn't find it, I will do some research on this on why you can't find this specific post as we have migrated all ITRC data into the community. I can imagine that this is frustrating and I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

The links in Google should be redirecting to the specific post in the community, if this is not the case then we need to find out why this is not happening.

 

As I mentioned I will look into the matter and get back to you.

Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

>The links in Google should be redirecting to the specific post in the community,

 

Ideally in the future?  Or right now, even the top ones pointing to the old ITRC URLs?

Using the following finds the current topic:

"defining disk layout version" site:h30499.www3.hp.com

 

Unfortunately it finds an empty page 2 which is even more confusing:

http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Community-Feedback-Suggestions/I-google-it-comes-to-this-website-then-can-t-find-anything/td-p/4809981/page/2

BGroot
Esteemed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

I saw that when you go to

[Broken link removed on 03-23-2017 by Admin], it doesn't find that right information. As I mentioned I will look into this and get back once I found something.

Zinky
Honored Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Well.. what can we say:

 

Oracle did it.

Redhat did it.

and now, HP.

 

Good Luck 'yall.

 

Hope HP goes back to the old simple fast (even if imperfect) Forums platform.

Hakuna Matata

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Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

>I saw that when you go to ... , it doesn't find that right information

 

It looks like it is now going to a more detailed redirect page.

KathyL1
Valued Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

And another one ...

I used Google to search hp.com for information about 'cannot install Oracle' and, in the results list, is a link to a topic posted in the Databases board in February 2007 (attachment 1).

The link to the thread is: [Broken link removed on 03-23-2017 by Admin]

Even though the Google cached information was available this time (attachment 2) I also searched the whole Community for the exact title of the topic (ie, Oracle 10gR2 - problems with installation) but it was not returned in the resuts list (I sorted by date to confirm - attachment 3).

I then browsed the Databases board with the board option set to 'Sort by latest post' but, onceagain, the topic I am trying to find is not there (attachment 4) and I even checked for the date the topic was started (attachment 5).

Thanks goodness (this time) for Google cache!

TimWarren
Advisor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

I have had the same issue where a google search for an article points to a post on the ITRC forum that do not exist on the new Community.

I have always used google to find ITRC posts as the old HP search was a waste of time - it didn't search across platforms or different forums - and often had 0 results for even basic search terms.

The new search is just as bad - you can always filter 1000's of results to find what you are looking for, but how do you filter 0 results???

Perhaps HP should invest in a google appliance and index the support forums properly, or at least make sure that the old content is on this new site - even if it is in an Archive link??

I guess most people on here have support contracts, i wonder if we can get a refund due to the lack of suport?

BGroot
Esteemed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Appreciate all the feedback regarding the missing posts. We are investigating this to find out why this is happening. We will come back with some explanation once we find out what is going on. I realize this is not helping you out right now, but we are trying to find out what is going on.

 

Apologize for the inconvenience.

KathyL1
Valued Contributor

Re: I google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my google search?

And another one ...

Searched for a post I made in relation to some security patches (PHCO_40838 and PHCO_40839) for 11.31 (attachment 1).

Google cache to the rescue again (attachment 2) but no luck finding it here either by searching for the patch numbers or using the browse by last post option on the Security board (attachment 3).

Hopefully someone can work out what these three posts I can't find have in common and, in turn, why they didn't get migrated ...

 

 

Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

>why the evaluation version of LoadRunner 11.0 that is available on the this site doesn't work?

 

You might want to delete your post here and create a new topic under the Performance Center category.

Nobody will see it under this unrelated topic.

BGroot
Esteemed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

Hi,

 

Try posting something in the LoadRunner support forum:

http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/LoadRunner/ct-p/sws-LoadRunner

Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: I Google it comes to this website then can't find anything related to my Google search?

>We will come back with some explanation once we find out what is going on

 

It looks like the most important threads were skipped, the closed ones.  They are now back.

http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Announcements/Additional-ITRC-content-has-been-migrated/m-p/5286015/message-uid/5286015#U5286015