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Install HP-UX without X

Andy Kosela
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Install HP-UX without X

How to quickly install just the most basic CLI oriented HP-UX system without X. Ignite-UX is not an option here.
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Kapil Jha
Honored Contributor

Re: Install HP-UX without X

Do you have HP-UX media??
You can use that.
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Steven E. Protter
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Shalom,

By default the Ignite-UX install of HP-UX from HP media does a non-X windows install. HP has a window system for the install designed to be used from a serial console.

Its not Linux and there is no X windows based installation at all.

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Torsten.
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Deselect all the GUI, CDE and X stuff that you don't need in the installer window.

>> Its not Linux ...

I agree.


>> and there is no X windows based installation at all.

Not correct. Did you ever install hp-ux on a workstation? There is a text based and a X-based installer (if VGA is available).

Hope this helps!
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Andy Kosela
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Torsten, I was trying *exactly* to do that, deselect all those X apps, but for some reason the installer didnt let me do it...
HP-UX 11iv1 MCOE 5 cd-rom media, December 2006
installing on PA-RISC workstation.

Torsten.
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

If you are installing on a workstation I guess it is the Technical Computing Operating Environment (TCOE) - the graphical part is IIRC a default part of this.

Any problems if you install it anyway?

Hope this helps!
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Wim Rombauts
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Without X ... Why would you do that ? What is the problem with it being installed ?

If you don't have an X-display, CDE won't be configured and nothing about X will be started on your system.
If you don't want to use ant X-display, just disable the startup scripts that would do that.
So, in my humble opinion, there is no reason to take the pain to find out how to remover all graphical packages from your install. Just go ahead with what you have, and disable software after installation.

Our servers have no display at all (except for the console through the iLO) and X *IS* installed. Why ? Because I use my PC as a graphical X-display and to be able to do that, you need the X-libraries on your HP-UX system.
Andy Kosela
Frequent Advisor

Re: Install HP-UX without X

Wim,
I can very well ask the same question - why do I *need* X if that is going to be a headless server?

UNIX was always the most simple, lean and unbloated operating system.
Most of my Linux servers are around 400 megs (base), and include only the most basic tools and utilities. Why do I need to maintain so much unneeded bloat like X and its libraries?
pure ssh is a perfectly nice way to administer such servers.
Andy Kosela
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Torsten, no problems at all.. I just had to uninstall all X apps after installation. But the whole installation procedure was a pain (very long!) because it had to use 4 of 5 cd-roms.

Is there a way to just use first cd-rom and force select only interested packages?
Torsten.
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

AFAIR there is a "minimal" option selectable while installing (don't know what is included there). To reduce all the disc changes you may consider to use the DVD instead of the CD.

Hope this helps!
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Andy Kosela
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

I'm still looking for a way to quickly install a minimal HP-UX core operating system (without X and all other bloat)

11iv3 default install is around 10G... that is a huge bloat as compared to my FreeBSD servers which are around 160M (base).

I already learned that I cannot deselect certain X libraries from itool install screen, but is there a way to script it like RedHat's kickstart so that it ONLY includes minimal core OS?
Steven E. Protter
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Re: Install HP-UX without X

Shalom,

There is no way to do it from the command line.

CDE does not install on HP-UX 11.31

Start the install, bring up the Ignite Interface and turn off as much of the install as you can.

The Ignite Interface will let you pare things down to the smallest possible OS. It will not let you remove features that must be there.

Its not going to be a 160 MB install like with Free BSD. HP-UX is industrial strength and is simply a bigger install.

Once you have a system installation, using Ignite to replicate that should be an option.

I know Linux comes with a minimal install option, a radio box that cuts out the bloat.

HP-UX does not have that feature. The Ignite-UX install interface (as opposed to the replication tools, there is a lot in common there) is the way to set up a minimal install. No short cuts. It takes some time.

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