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Oracle and HPUX version help??

Chris Fadrowski
Super Advisor

Oracle and HPUX version help??

My DBA's have requested they want to run Oracle Release 2 of 11g. One of the requirements is HPUX 11.31 Sept 2008 B11.23.0809.326a. I am currently on B11.23.0709.312a.

It is my understanding the i need to rebuild the OS and this is NOT a patch set for HPUX. Is oracle really pushing for alot of HPUX customers to completely reload the OS to support their fixes instead of just patching the bugs in 11g release #1?

Does anyone know the answer?
12 REPLIES
James R. Ferguson
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Hi Chris:

> It is my understanding the i need to rebuild the OS...

That's not really true. You use 'update-ux' to move from one "update level" to the next. This differs from the application of a standard Quality Pack bundle insofar as both patches and products are available in the new Operating Environment update DVD and both are refreshed as necessarily. This isn't the same as a cold-install.

http://docs.hp.com/en/B2355-60130/update-ux.1M.html

Regards!

...JRF...
Duncan Edmonstone
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

>> It is my understanding the i need to rebuild the OS and this is NOT a patch set for HPUX. Is

Well it's not just a patch set, but neither would I describe it as a complete rebuild of the OS. You will need to use update-ux to upgrade from 0709 to at least 0809. You can read about it in the update guide:

http://docs.hp.com/en/5992-6552/5992-6552.pdf

Pay particular attention to Chapter 6 and appendix A.

As for Oracle forcing you down this route, well it doesn't surprise me... I think a lot of Solaris users are in for a shock with their new vendor.

HTH

Duncan

HTH

Duncan
Michael Steele_2
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Hi

I'm not sure how to answer this, however, if oracle says they require it for oracle to work with hp-ux then you'll be saving yourself a lot of headaches by conforming.

There are kernel parameters, firmware versionss, kernel, network, command, diagnostics patches. All are targets to be upgraded.
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Chris Fadrowski
Super Advisor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

i researched the update-ux utility and it is NOT recommended by HP. Even opened a case and asked. they said i could but the recommend a rebuild.
Duncan Edmonstone
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Chris,

Can you provide the case ID - I'd like to follow this through and ask why are RC is recommending that...

Duncan

HTH

Duncan
Chris Fadrowski
Super Advisor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

sure..

4609617690

Direct cut and paste from the case;

Hi Chris,

Even when update-ux is a fully supproted procedure we never recommend it, we recommend to perform a cold installation of the OS and then recover from backup your file systems and any other application that is not part of the OS, most of the times takes more time to fix the problem that update-ux gives you than perform the cold installation and recovering from backup.

Please let me know if you have more questions.
Duncan Edmonstone
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Chris,

So there are 2 issues here:

i) Is update-ux "recommended by HP Support" - I will follow that up seperately.

ii) Do I need to "update" to 0809 release of the OS or later for Oracle 11gR2.

Well according to the Oracle install manual:

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/install.112/e10852/pre_install.htm#CIHFICFD

The answer is NO you don't. The command given there is only checking the release level of a quality pack patch bundle. So from what Oracle are saying here you can simply apply the latest patch bundle in the form of a quality pack (QPK) via swinstall rather than having to actually run update-ux.

I'd still like to follow up the comment on the use of update-ux if you can get a case ID.

HTH

Duncan

HTH

Duncan
Chris Fadrowski
Super Advisor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Duncan, if i may, can i ask what CD that quality pack is on? (date on CD) i assume is the latest OS install disk. And thank you, you have been quite helpful
Duncan Edmonstone
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

ahh well... being a HP'er I never use DVDs as everything internally is always available in SD depots... I would expect it to be on the install DVDs though as the patches go on as part of an OS install.

Alternatively you can downlod it:

http://www13.itrc.hp.com/service/patch/releasePage.do?BC=main|releaseIndexPage|&releaseId=0909-11.31

HTH

Duncan

HTH

Duncan
Chris Fadrowski
Super Advisor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

i will have to request the DVD's as this is quite large. Doubt it would get here in tack.
James R. Ferguson
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

Hi (again) Chris:

> I will have to request the DVD's as this is quite large. Doubt it would get here in tack.

Why bother? Use SWA to fetch the QPK and build a depot for installation.

Regards!

...JRF...
Rita C Workman
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle and HPUX version help??

I'm going to take a whole different tack on this....

Oracle 11g - i.e. Oracle Grid technology.

It seems that Oracle, like others, is working to build their software as the controller. Our DBA's have 11g on a box here and I've found that it conflicts with things like HP-SIMM; and HPVM (Virtual Machines) and probably more.

...The issue...they all want to control the O/S & hardware. HPVM host requires control of the hardware to serve up to the VM clients. HP-SIMM if it's the HP-SIMM Server (client agent is okay) conflicts with it. Both of these are documented. Our DBA's subtly gave me their views on how they can could the 'box' with 11g. Everybody feels they can be the HPUX Admin.

So beyond updating to an O/S version - watch out what's on the box that might conflict with 'grid' technology.

Just sharing.
Regards,
Rita