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тАО02-09-2009 06:04 AM
тАО02-09-2009 06:04 AM
Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
I think there should not be but I'd like to hear out the experts.
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тАО02-09-2009 06:43 AM
тАО02-09-2009 06:43 AM
Re: Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
Specifically, search Metalink!
Searching for (power search off) "migrate hpuxx itanium" immediatly returns:
402497.1 - Migrating Oracle RDBMS 10g Database From HPUX PA_RISC to Itanium or vica versa
This clarifies how there have been documentation issues but on the whole:
"The migration of database files from PA-RISC systems to Itanium systems is done without exporting or importing
the files. The migration process for Oracle9i which is documented in Metalink note 266220.1, can be used with Oracle Database release 10g."
Of course the ITRC remains great for quick hints and directions on where to look, but for the bet-your-business-stuff you want something more solid IMHO.
Enjoy!
Hein van den Heuvel
HvdH Performance Consulting
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тАО02-09-2009 06:50 AM
тАО02-09-2009 06:50 AM
Re: Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
If the database version is the same, data conversion, raw/cooked PA-RISC to Itanium, even 11.11 to 11.31 and back again is fairly straightforward.
As of late last year though, Oracle was not supporting its 11.x database on 11.11 OS. Therefore some problems come into the mix.
If you keep choose the right versions of Oracle and are willing to live with this, and you keep the database running and current on 11.11 its possible.
Preferable? No.
I'd rather have a less powerful Itanium systm in DR that is capable of running the exact same OS,oracle version and file system type.
If this were a real disaster, do you really want to run data conversion steps (There are some in the above scenario) or leave them to your replacement, who does not have your smiling, face but merely a document you wrote.
Bottom line however is what you propose is possible. You are going to want to practice the conversion once in a while and document it. I recommend simplification though.
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тАО02-09-2009 02:39 PM
тАО02-09-2009 02:39 PM
Re: Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
While it's reasonable that it "should work", I'm thinking that the day that it doesn't - even if it is for some reason not related to this setup. Oracle is not going to help save your data.
As a DBA and admin - there's lots of things I can do which, in all probability works just fine. However, if it leaves with a system that may not need support when it's SORELY needed - then it's not a solution.
Remember, you'll only need support on an issue of that magnitude if your down and out, which is *exactly* when you don't want to be off the beaten path with Oracle. In a sense, it would be just as well to not pay for support if you're going that route - as you'll only truly *NEED* Oracle support *IF* anything disastrous goes wrong...
I'm not meaning to go on about this, but you should give this some careful thought before deciding that it is a valid plan. In this current economy of saving $$$ at all costs, which I wholly understand - some things aren't worth considering very long.
Like Steven, I'd say just have a low powered Itanium server for that purpose. Itanium has been around for quite a while now, and an older box with slower processors are really cheap right now. Just look a little harder for them, they're out there.
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тАО03-13-2009 12:52 PM
тАО03-13-2009 12:52 PM
Re: Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
The other major concern is the JFS version layout. Since your running Online JFS 3.5, you're PROBABLY okay. The 'vxupgrade' command will tell you what version file system layout you have. (If the file system was created under an older version of Online JFS, it may need to be upgraded.) You will need to verify that, whatever you have, it is supported on both systems.
That being said, I have successfully cross-mounted JFS file systems from PA-RISC/11.11 to Itanium/11.23 for Oracle. The database files are fully binary compatible from one to the other. However, I did this as part of a transitional migration from one system to the other, not a long-term configuration.
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тАО03-13-2009 12:56 PM
тАО03-13-2009 12:56 PM
Re: Portability of Oracle Filesystems (Cooked or ASM/RAW) between PARISC and IA64
Uses Cooked VxFS Filesystems or ASM/RAW
Prod will be 11.31
Dev/Test will be 11.11 PARISC
The Dev/Test/Staging Environments mounts periodic split mirrors of Prods (VxVM FLashsnap or BusinessCopy/BCVs)
This is not DR...
Currently, we even use an Itanium Machine as NetBackup server to mount PARISC / 11.11 filesystems locally for faster backups and restores. Then the Filesystems are deported and imported back to PARISC once more.
No issues thus far.