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тАО11-01-2007 04:35 AM
тАО11-01-2007 04:35 AM
Please help me creating/writing a presentation, whose topic is "Why Choose Linux over Unix" or "The Benefits Of Linux over Unix".
I am asking this becuase one of our client has intentions to buy IBM-AIX to run SEP. My task is to convince them to use/buy Linux(Enterprise Linux) to run SEP(ERP).
I have some points in mind, on which I can write e.g Cost and wide range of Apps that can be run on Linux, but not on Unix. Linux is almost Hardware Independent, while Unix is almost hardware Dependent.
I have heard that there is some support advantage using SEP(ERP) on Suse Linux Enterprise Server.
Anyone of you can please provide me some points, or share any article on this subject.
points that focus on COST, HARDWARE, Wide Range of Applications availability etc will also be appreciated
Regards
Maaz
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тАО11-01-2007 04:54 AM
тАО11-01-2007 04:54 AM
SolutionPlease start reading that thread:
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1133264
Good answers there.
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тАО11-01-2007 05:16 AM
тАО11-01-2007 05:16 AM
Re: why Linux ?
I would appreciate more replies esp that focuses on Linux is Better then Unix.
Both Linux and Unix are reliable stable and secure, but Linux has edge because.. linux is cheaper(cost wise), has no especial hw limit(as unicies has), wider range of apps are avialable to run, and
ESP I would appreciate if anyone gives the WORDS/THOUGHTS that as compare to Linux, there is no additional advantage to run SEP on AIX(since Liux is secure, reliable & stable as AIX), but the additional adv Linux gives that it can run on Cheaper Hardware, as well as Linux is also Cheap(cost wise only ;-) ), so it is better to run SEP(erp) on Linux instead of AIX(unix).
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тАО11-01-2007 05:31 AM
тАО11-01-2007 05:31 AM
Re: why Linux ?
From my perspective, Linux can't compare one to one with other Unix version. Depending of what you need, Linux can be placed a lot under other Unix flavors.
These are some thigs that I have to go in favor of Unix:
- AIX, HP-UX, Solaris volume manager with mirror capabilities very stable and tested. AIX provides one of the best volume manager from my point of view. Clustered mirrors and snapshots. Solaris ZFS is excelent.
- Clustering solutions. Very reliable, flexible and powerfull clustering solutions for HP-UX and Solaris. Split brain handling, global/cluster file systems, etc. HACMP not too good to me. I don't know how good is ServiceGuard for Linux as compared with HP-UX.
- Crash dump handling and debugging.
- Dynamic Reconfiguration. Movement of hardware resources between "physical" or logical partitios (memory, cpu, I/O). Hot swap device replacement (OLAR).
- Solaris zones are really good for virtualization.
- Longer binary compatibility.
- Support quality?. Don't know, support service for any providers is bad here ;).
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тАО11-01-2007 06:30 AM
тАО11-01-2007 06:30 AM
Re: why Linux ?
> focuses on Linux is Better then Unix.
Whether it's true or not?
> [...] Liux is secure, reliable & stable as
> AIX [...]
That's your opinion. IBM might not agree
(although they also sell Linux).
> [...] wider range of apps are avialable to
> run, [...]
And, even assuming that that's true, if you
don't need any of those other applications,
how big a benefit is that?
> [...] Linux gives that it can run on
> Cheaper Hardware, [...]
And cheaper = more reliable? In some cases,
price is not the most important
consideration.
If I were looking for advice from one of my
vendors on which OS to choose, I'd tend to
ignore advice I got from anyone who knew the
answer before doing any investigation of my
situation. I'd also tend not to give great
weight to advice from anyone who knows all
about one OS (say, Linux), but nothing about
another (say, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, or
whatever).
But your client may think differently from
me.
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тАО11-01-2007 08:49 AM
тАО11-01-2007 08:49 AM
Re: why Linux ?
I saw a study by HP showing their IA-64 systems running HP-UX 11.31 with 16 CPU's in two nodes could the work of 50 Dell CPU's in a 10 node HA configuration running 32 bit Linux Red Hat.
Was that fair? No. It was designed to dell Itanium hardware.
What I can tell you from our business is the really large customers with really large databases like their HP-UX.
The smaller ones with smaller budgets like their Linux.
I can't remember the last time we had real downtime in production attributed to the OS anywhere.
I have notices some serious Quality Assurance issues with Red Hat Linux. Serious problems such as memory leaks and poor functionality, especially on the dot zero releases. Serious problems surviving two releases.
I have seen better quality releases from HP on HP-UX. However not everyone or every project can afford the OS.
The right tool for the right job.
SEP
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тАО11-01-2007 08:38 PM
тАО11-01-2007 08:38 PM
Re: why Linux ?
if you're running an all 'open-source' stack, you couldn't do much better then to run in on linux.
but, i don't know this SEP thing, and i doubt it's open-source. and it doesn't matter that linux is good, because it will only be as good as the application running on it (in the eyes of the end-user).
what you need to do is ask these SEP guys what their prefered platform is, which has the best support, which is used for INITIAL development. then you'll know what to run it on.
linux is a great environment, for admins even more (ihmo), but if the application doesn't run well...
read these articles in the press where they say linux was not ready yet, and they are going back to windows/solaris/whatever. linux was ready, the application vendor wasn't ready for linux yet. ofcourse that makes linux invalid as a platform too.
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тАО11-02-2007 12:25 AM
тАО11-02-2007 12:25 AM
Re: why Linux ?
Hardware Cost and support over 5 years
OS Cost and support over 5 years
Application support differences
Expertise of supporting team
Willingness of all involved to center on a scpecific OS
And while your developing this, consider what you are supporting now. Is there history to point to that pushes the descision one way or the other? I say this because we have had specific issues with IBM support that made the choice much more clear.
Finally, look for templates from the likes of HP and IBM that can give the proper verbage that CIO and others will understand.
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тАО11-02-2007 03:48 AM
тАО11-02-2007 03:48 AM
Re: why Linux ?
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тАО11-02-2007 11:13 PM
тАО11-02-2007 11:13 PM
Re: why Linux ?
http://www.novell.com/linux/compare.html?tab=1
Here is Linux advocacy:
http://www.linux.org/info/advocacy.html
When you are trying to think about the advantages of Linux over AIX / UNIX - there are not many you can point out. As you said, hardware support & cost of purchase are definitely the advantages of Linux. Also, Linux has more software easily available, but that wouldn't hold much relevance if the sole purpose is to run SEP on Linux.
Good Luck!