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A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

 
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Hi everyone, my problem has surfaced again!

I have an A5191B that works with 360 & 440MHz procs. When I use the 550Mhz procs it doesn't even start power on self tests and just hangs. No VFP test progress.

My proc switch settings are set to: off off on off on and my PDC firmware is the newest available.

Any ideas why these are not working. I Have many 550's and all do the same thing so I don't think it is the procs but maybe it is??

Also, when I try the processors in an A6144B no problems and they come up as 550MHz.

Any ideas??
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Adisuria Wangsadinata_1
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Hi,

A5191B is rp5450 / L2000 only support 360 MHz & 440 MHz processor.

A6144B is rp5470 / L3000 can support 550 MHz, 650 MHz, 750 MHz processor.

You can check the processor part number for each machine part number at this url below :

http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main

And based from your switch setting, the system board only support for 360 MHz & 440 MHz; since the L3000 system board (on S2) with 8 switch for speed setting.

Hope this information can help you.

Cheers,
AW

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Adisuria Wangsadinata_1
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Hi,

May I know your system board part number ?

Looks like only A5191-60016 can run with 550 MHz (but run at 540 MHz at L2000/rp5450).

Hope this information can help you.

Cheers,
AW
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Torsten.
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Hi,

your A5191B is a rp5450 AKA L2000.
Make sure the PDC is good enough to support the CPUs.

Current version 44.28:

offline: PF_CRHW4428
online 11.11: PHSS_31801
online 11.00: PHSS_31800

System board rev A only supports 360/440 MHz.



Hope this helps!
Regards
Torsten.

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Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Thanks for the input guys. How do I tell if my system is a Rev. A or B?? System board part # is a5191-60016.
Jeff Schussele
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Hi Dane,

You need to run up cstm & pull up the "system" info to see the main board info.

Rgds,
Jeff
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Andrew Rutter
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

hi,

The a rev board has A5191-60001
the B rev board has A5191-60016
part numbers

So you have a B rev board.

you can check this in stm under system info

#echo "selclass qualifier system;info;wait;infolg" ¦ cstm

this should return L2000B or run Mapper in ODE this will list the corect model of your server.

One more thing to check is the revisions of the Processor support modules.
There has been different revisions released? Do you others of these you could try?


Andy
Torsten.
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

run cstm and look for an entry like this:

FRUID Field ascii hex
----------- ----- ---
FRU Name.............: SYS_BD
Part Number..........: A5191-60016

Here it is a rev B.

Hope this helps!
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Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Are there any early revision B boards that would have to be upgraded to see the 550's?

We've heard that some A5191B's from HP were not working with 550's and had to be upgraded again to accept them.
timmy b.
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

I'm glad to see that it's not just you, me, Steve and Brad having problems figuring this one out!

I've never heard of a rev B board not accepting the 550s, or needing to be "upgraded again". I know you tried these procs in an rp5470, but have you tried them in another L2000? I think you may need to replace the system board.

Good Luck - Tim
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Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

I have tried the 550's in two other L2000 systems. All are doing the same thing so it is pointing me towards the procs. The only wierd thing is that the 550's work perfectly in A6144B's and A6797B's. I am completely stumped.
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

How many power supplies in your A5191B? How many 550MHz processors are you adding?
What is the processor support module that you are using?
Mom 6
timmy b.
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Ted has the same thought as I had brewing:

1. What PSM are you using?

2. Have you used other PSMs, same part number?

3. In single CPU, what Terminator are you using?

4. Have you tried another Terminator, same part number?

5. In two CPU, are you using slots 0/3?

6. Are you getting the same symptom in single CPU as in multi CPU?

I think I went over all that last week with Steve, but I'll ask you since you are the one turning the screwdriver.

Tim
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Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Ok here is what I did now.
I got the A6146A's from the guy that had them working in the A5191B he sold us. We put them in our A5191B that we have been having problems with and they worked. So I took down all the info for the processors.

I then took the A6146A's that we couldn't get working in the A5191B and put them in an A6144B to get the processor info. My results are below.

The only difference that I see in the procs is the HVERSION. Lemme know if anyone can make anything of this? Any input would be much appreciated.

It looks to me like HP has some A6146A's floating around that work in L2000's and some that don't work in L2000's.
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Here are answers to your questions:

1. A5796A
2. YES
3. Both A5570-62014 & A5559-62001(both do the same)
4. YES
5. YES
6. NO, with a single CPU and term. it starts self tests & fails at I/O test 8119.
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Are you sure that you have the upgraded system board in your L2000? HP used to sell the A6479A with option 002, which gave you a new system board and a 550MHz processor (that ran at 540MHz).
Mom 6
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

You make a good point Ted but the only thing is that these other A6146A's(550MHz) work fine and come up as 540's which is what they should do. Check out my attachment above.
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Here's another thing to think about.

I tried the system with 3 procs. I put the two that worked in slots 0 & 3 and the one that didn't work in slot 1 and when it booted up at the main menu it says procs are not installed in the correct order. Must be 0,3,1,2 which is what I did. Then I do an in pr and says only two procs running(0 & 3). What do I make of that??
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Do you have the CPU Support Module 0 installed first (for CPU 0 and 3), before CPU Support Module 1 (for CPU 1 and2)? It is the one on the same side of the board as CPU 0/1 on the L2000? You need the second CPU support Module for the third or fourth CPU. Did you change the memory configuration? Check the pins and sockets for problems. It says you can mix CPUs, but I see that the CPU clock frequency must be set to teh speed of the slower CPUs. This implies to me that you must also do something to set the clock frequency. Did you do that?
Mom 6
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

I have everything installed in the correct order and have both psm's in. Firmware to 44.28.

Definitly not a problem with the other hardware or order. I have been troubleshooting this for days now. The problem is the board or the procs I was just hoping someone from HP might know how to solve this problem or tell us what we can do about it.

I've tried a dozen different procs and half a dozen psm's all my memory is good. It is definitely the procs or the upgrade is not complete. Also, this is happening on three different L2000's.
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Another thing I tried is putting two 440's and two 550's in and dip switches to 440 settings. Just to make sure it worked with four procs(don't have 4- 440's). I noticed then that the HVERSION changed on the 550's that were 0x05d9 are now 0x05c4. The cversion 3.1 procs on this attachment are the same ones used in the L2000 in my attachment earlier. Just something else to think about. Maybe it sounds like the boards in our L2000's are bad.
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Did all four boot at 440MHz okay?
Mom 6
Dane Van Steenwyk
Frequent Advisor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

Yes all four booted up fine. I put my information results in the attachment provided. Thanks for your help.
Ted Buis
Honored Contributor

Re: A5191B not working with 550MHz procs

So you set the switches for 440MHz on the 550MHz processors. Is there possibly a setting for 540MHz versus the 550MHz? I haven't seen anything on this, but I don't have a service manual, and I don't see on at www.docs.hp.com.
Mom 6