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Gus Mestousis
Frequent Advisor

D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Hi,

I'm trying to add 2 A3646A 4.3GB Hot Swap Drives (4.3SE) to my D330, which already has 4 2.1DF Drives installed. All the 2.1 GB Disks get detected, but when I try to add even one of the Hot Swap Drives, The systems can not find any drives.

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Thanks,
Gus
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Pete Randall
Outstanding Contributor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Gus,

Sounds like a SCSI mismatch. I don't think the DF drives can co-exist with the SE drives.


Pete


Pete
Steven E. Protter
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Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

I would look at the systems firmware.

I have been told by my favorite hardware people that you can put 9 Gig hot swaps in my D320(close match I think).

I have 4 Gig Hot swaps in there now.

I don't think those drives have any user configurable dip switches or anything, I'm holding a 4 GB hot swap in my hand right now.

Perhaps its time to consult the system documentation.

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A. Clay Stephenson
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Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

STOP. DESIST!! DO NOT PASS GO!!! DO NOT COLLECT $200.00.

You cannot use Single-ended SCSI drives in HVD SCSI buses. You can damage controllers, drives, terminators ... .
If it ain't broke, I can fix that.
Patrick Wallek
Honored Contributor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Clay is absolutely correct. The drives in the internal drive bays on the D boxes ABSOLUTELY MUST be DF drives. There is no way you SE drives will work.

Take the 4.3GB SE drives and trade them in on some 4.3GB DF drives.

If you bought them from a vendor and they told you that they would work, find a different vendor because they are absolutely incorrect.
Mike Fisher_5
Trusted Contributor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Gus

Those are for the Disk Array AutoRAID Model 12
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Gus Mestousis
Frequent Advisor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

I kind of figured that I couldnt mix and match, but did not realize that the SE would not work at all.

As always thatnks for the quick responce and awesome support.

Gus
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Gus Mestousis
Frequent Advisor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Is it just the D330 that wont support the SE disks? Someone else had also told me that they have SE disk in their D3XX Server.

Gus
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Pete Randall
Outstanding Contributor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Gus,

I believe what you were told is true. Depending on the bus, you can have either SE or DF drives but not a mixture of the two.


Pete


Pete
A. Clay Stephenson
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Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

You can certainly use SE-SCSI drives on a D3XX but not in the internal drive bays. Those are HVD SCSI. The SE-SCSI disk modules that you have can be used in a Jamaica (A3312) enclosure and connected to the SE-SCSI connector on the back of your D-box --- again also make sure that you use a SE terminator for this. The Jamaica enclosure will also accept HVD SCSI modules as well - just not on the same bus.
If it ain't broke, I can fix that.
Caesar_3
Esteemed Contributor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Hello!

You must use scsi that is for the scsi drives
that you have ond not to mix only if the scsi controler suport it.

It's issue that can damage your hardware so
don't do what is made damage.

Caesar
Michael Roeder
Frequent Advisor

Re: D330 Hot Swap Drive A3646A

Hi,

8/16/x.y is SE (50 pin HD).

In the 5 8/4.z hot swap slots, there are two kinds of disk.
1st: 2 GB and some 4 GB HVD drives, like
SEAGATE ST32171W or SEAGATE ST34371W
2nd: some 4 GB and 9 GB drives, like
SEAGATE ST34572WC, SEAGATE ST34573WC, SEAGATE ST39175LC. These drives are UW/U2W drives, the bay contains an adapter on the connection from HDD to Bay. You can recognize it on three chips there.

You could use (HP unsupported) 9/18/32 GB U2W drives (maybe 72 GB, but be aware if the drives will go too hot - they will die).
I have checked max. 32 GB U160 Seagate, but the drive would be too hot after some minutes because the air flow is very bad in the D330 Server (or Jamaica, too).

Open the bays and have a look at the SCSI drives and the adaptor.

18 GB U2W/Ultra160 with 7200 rpm should live long enough.

Of course you can use SE/UW/U2W/U160/U320 (LVD/SE) drives in the bay kind 2 if it makes any sense for you.

Have fun.