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тАО03-21-2005 03:55 AM
тАО03-21-2005 03:55 AM
soon-to-be-desupported server (31-jul-2007) on a sooner-to-be-desupported OS (12/31/06).
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тАО03-21-2005 04:04 AM
тАО03-21-2005 04:04 AM
SolutionHP has said publically on a number of occaisions that the next generation of PA-RISC chips is the last and the future platform is Itanium 64 bit, which is called the Integrity Server.
Integrity Servers use HP-UX 11i v2 is the post current version. The code and feature base is gradually being unified.
I'm planning a server upgrade for 2006 at my organiztion. Due to backward compatability issues it will be a HP-9000 PA-RISC server(s).
That will probably be the last PA-RISC server the JUF buys from HP. The 2010 upgrade, which is not even a glint in anyones eye is planned for Itanium.
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тАО03-21-2005 07:23 AM
тАО03-21-2005 07:23 AM
Re: Future of HP 9000 servers
1. product goes out of production, no new units are built, but service and repair parts are available. A new product can have a 1-3 year life in production, fairly typical for servers.
2. Various servers have had 5 to 15 (or more) years for hardware support after end-of-production where HP still comes out to fix your equipment.
3. HP decides not to cover a specific product set with a repair contract, but repair parts are still available. 3rd party service companies can provide parts and service.
But as is generally the case with computers, the OS is the determining factor. There are HP 9000 models that cannot run an OS newer than 9.0 and are therefore non-Y2K compliant. Newer OS versions end support of certain I/O cards (ie, video, PCI, etc). Software (OS) support is usually the more limiting factor.
So it would not be a good idea to plan a new system (hardware, software, applications) without your own lifecycle plans. Generally speaking, HP-UX servers should be replaced every 5-7 years even when performance is adequate. The reason is that new servers are significantly smaller, faster and require much less floor space. And of course, they'll support the current opsystem. For instance, an rp-2405 will easily replace several K460's or T500's with huge savings in airconditioning and power.
This turnover in technology is the main reason that leasing is often a better choice.
Bill Hassell, sysadmin
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тАО03-22-2005 05:01 AM
тАО03-22-2005 05:01 AM
Re: Future of HP 9000 servers
Two years doesn't count as soon in my book, but I suppose it is all relative. Nine years is a long time to support HP-UX 11.0 as it came out in December 1997. Moving to HP-UX 11.11 shouldn't be that hard. Go to www.hp.com/go/STK to get the software transititon toolkit, so you can start the process now of examining your system to see if there will be any issues. But to answer your question about the end of the HP9000, just because the last pa-risc chip will release later this year doesn't mean that HP will not continue to sell HP9000 systems for a couple more years after that. Also, if you look closely at the new systems you see that they use the same chassis, internal busses, chipsets and memory as the Integrity server line. In-box upgrades are easier than ever before to Itanium. With the Aries Dynamic Translator, those servers will be able to continue to execute pa-risc code. HP's roadmap and investment protection is really very good.
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тАО03-28-2005 04:42 AM
тАО03-28-2005 04:42 AM
Re: Future of HP 9000 servers
The e3000 notwithstanding.
With regards to the original question, yes I think HP-UX has a viable future, over a time period typically used to do strategic IT planning. What's your window .. 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? I think even at 10 years, HP-UX is "comfortable".
The real question is one of hardware. HP-UX has committed to Itanium for server hardware, so I think things are safe and predictable for server customers. The story is different for workstation customers, though. Without Itanium, and eventually without PA-RISC, what chip will HP be using in workstations? Assuming they don't do something really wierd like license PowerPC processors from IBM, it's going to be an Intel chip (and apparently a non-Itanium one). So is HP going to support HP-UX on those? if so, they will need two HP-UX releases .. one for IA-64, one for x86-64 or whatever. Won't that be fun!
Or will HP get back on Itanium for workstations? Or will they get out of the UNIX workstation business altogether?
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тАО03-29-2005 12:41 AM
тАО03-29-2005 12:41 AM
Re: Future of HP 9000 servers
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тАО03-29-2005 12:56 AM
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Re: Future of HP 9000 servers
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тАО03-29-2005 03:42 AM
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