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Stuart Powell
Super Advisor

Server comparison with a K580

I'm looking on the used server market for a set of development stations that are at least one generation newer that the K580. And a system that will perform better than the K580. Does anyone have a reference that would give me some guidance?

Stuart
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Zygmunt Krawczyk
Honored Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Hi Stuart,

try to find model N4000 (rp7400) with 360, 440 or 550 MHz CPUs.
You can also consider the smaller model L2000 (rp5450) with 360, 440 or 540 MHz CPUs.

Regards,
Zygmunt
Robert_Jewell
Honored Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Timeline wise the L2000 would probably be your best bet. It only holds 4 CPU's, but the PA-8500 and 8600 chips are faster than the K580's PA-8200 chip. I think the bus is a bit more stable as well.

You could also consider a J7000 workstation which also holds 4 8500 440mhz CPU's.

Both systems hold 4 internal hotswap disks and use PCI slots for IO.

You could check benchmarks to see the differences as I am not sure there.

-Bob
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Jim Mallett
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Re: Server comparison with a K580

My experience is limited with hardware but I'm going to put my vote in for the L2000. We went from a couple of K580s to a couple of L2000s and they work like a charm. Easy to use, a great improvement (although the K580s really were workhorses), and much less expensive when it comes to maintenance. Although there's not much left that can be put under maintenance on the K580s.

Not sure what kind of development you are doing, but just to give you a point of reference: Each L2000 is running a half dozen Oracle instances including Financials and they barely put a dent in it.

Jim
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Jesse Dougherty
Honored Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Hi Stuart, if your looking for the biggest bang for your buck in the used market that is steps above the K580, I would suggest a J5000. It's dual 440MHz PA-RISC 8500 and you can pick a nicely configured one for about 1k. All of the add-on internal disk, memory, and I/O cards are a lot cheaper than the K, N, L, and RP stuff.

Hope this helps
Jesse Dougherty
Cypress Technology, Inc
Re-Sellers of HP 3000/9000 products
jesse@cypress-tech.com
Stuart Powell
Super Advisor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Thanks for the input and comparisons. Is there a URL that would show performance differences?

Stuart
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Jesse Dougherty
Honored Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

I have a PDF of the J5000 and N4000 that I can email to you..
James Anker
Valued Contributor
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Re: Server comparison with a K580

Stuart,

HP 9000 K380/K580 M 2 12,000
HP 9000 K380/K580 M 4 21,000
HP 9000 K380/K580 M 6 25,000


hp server rp5400 (360 MHz) L 2 12,260
hp server rp5400 (540MHz) L 1 8,770
hp server rp5400 (540MHz) L 2 15,800
hp server rp5430 (550MHZ) L 1 10,039
hp server rp5430 (550MHZ) L 2 18,385
hp server rp5430 (650MHz) L 1 12,300
hp server rp5430 (650MHz) L 2 23,800
hp server rp5430 (750MHz) L 1 14,200
hp server rp5430 (750MHz) L 2 27,500
hp server rp5430 (875MHz) L 1 15,506
hp server rp5430 (875MHz) L 2 30,030
hp server rp5450 (440 MHz) L 1 7,723
hp server rp5450 (440 MHz) L 2 13,928
hp server rp5450 (440 MHz) L 4 22,423 S11 $16.43 22,422
hp server rp5450 (540MHz) L 1 8,770
hp server rp5450 (540MHz) L 2 15,800
hp server rp5450 (540MHz) L 4 25,427
hp server rp5470 (550MHz) L 1 10,039
hp server rp5470 (550MHz) L 2 18,385
hp server rp5470 (550MHz) L 4 34,288 S12 $17.97 34,288
hp server rp5470 (650MHz) L 1 12,300
hp server rp5470 (650MHz) L 2 23,800
hp server rp5470 (650MHz) L 4 43,300
hp server rp5470 (750MHz) L 1 14,200
hp server rp5470 (750MHz) L 2 27,500
hp server rp5470 (750MHz) L 4 50,000
hp server rp5470 (875MHz) L 1 15,506
hp server rp5470 (875MHz) L 2 30,030
hp server rp5470 (875MHz) L 4 54,600

HP 9000 N4000 (360MHz) M 1 7,250
HP 9000 N4000 (360MHz) M 2 13,400
HP 9000 N4000 (360MHz) M 4 24,200
HP 9000 N4000 (360MHz) M 6 34,500
HP 9000 N4000 (360MHz) M 8 43,400
HP 9000 N4000 (440MHz) M 1 8,200
HP 9000 N4000 (440MHz) M 2 15,200
HP 9000 N4000 (440MHz) M 4 27,500
HP 9000 N4000 (440MHz) M 6 39,000
HP 9000 N4000 (440MHz) M 8 49,308 S11 $37.37 49,300
HP 9000 N4000 (550MHz) M 1 10,000
HP 9000 N4000 (550MHz) M 2 18,500
HP 9000 N4000 (550MHz) M 4 33,500
HP 9000 N4000 (550MHz) M 6 47,500
HP 9000 N4000 (550MHz) M 8 60,367 S12 $20.87 60,000


Kind regards,

James
Stuart Powell
Super Advisor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Jesse;

Can you attach it to this thread?

James;

Are you listing current prices or performance numbers?

Stuart
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Jesse Dougherty
Honored Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

I can't seem to attach the file to this thread but I can attach it to an email or fax it to you.
James Anker
Valued Contributor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Stuart,

Performance numbers - ignore $ figures.

Cheers

james
Stuart Powell
Super Advisor

Re: Server comparison with a K580

Jesse,

Mail to spowell@aetinc.com.

Thanks.
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