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тАО09-17-2010 03:39 AM
тАО09-17-2010 03:39 AM
We we're looking at EMC SANCopy which has the ability to copy data from EMC CX to HP EVA.
Unfortunately there is no information in relation to the P4000.
Several scenario's are possible but the all incorporate serious downtime
- backup/restore from EMC to P4000
- host based mirroring
- fresh install onto P4000
-...
Any ideas?
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тАО09-17-2010 06:55 AM
тАО09-17-2010 06:55 AM
SolutionA very elegant method is using the HP MPX200 router. Beside iSCSI, FCoE, FCIP it also allows offline and online Data Migration.
The Data Migration feature allows migrating LUNs from FC to FC arrays as well as from FC to iSCSI arrays.
You find the MPX description here: http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/mpx200mr/index.html
and the MPX200 Data Migration User Guide here:
http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02256724/c02256724.pdf
You can also request the migration as a service from HP. Contact your HP representative.
Cheers
Pete
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тАО09-18-2010 06:06 AM
тАО09-18-2010 06:06 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
This is from the MPX200 quickspecs:
Destination Arrays: All MPX200 supported EVA models
Source Arrays: All MPX200 supported EVA models, EVA3000/5000, MSA; IBM - DS4000, DS5000 Series; EMC CX Series, AX Series; HDS - AMS Family, WMS Family
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тАО09-18-2010 11:35 AM
тАО09-18-2010 11:35 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
You are right, it is not yet documented!
I will investigate and come back with the appropriate information.
Cheers
Pete
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тАО09-19-2010 04:27 AM
тАО09-19-2010 04:27 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
where possible, migrating data between different vendor arrays i'd almost always prefer host based mirroring myself, e.g
mount the p4k volume up on the host with the san presented storage - rsync or equivalent to the new storage.
what benefit are you getting from a san based software to migrating the data (as i assume it pretty much has downtime also associated with cutting over luns?)
regards,
-jason
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тАО09-19-2010 05:48 AM
тАО09-19-2010 05:48 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
But remember that most DM (data migration) scenarios may require require downtime.
Even host base methods may require installation of new drivers or multipathing software or plug-ins that require a reboot or an unmap and map of a LUN.
When doing online DM with the MPX200 you only need to remap the LUN or reboot the server at the very end of the migration.
This can be planned ahead.
The advantages of MPX200 based migrations are:
- very same method for all operating systems
- jobs can be pre-defined and scheduled
- no additional load on the servers
- migration speed can be specified
- very high migration rates of up to 4TB/hour
Cheers
Pete
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тАО09-19-2010 11:44 PM
тАО09-19-2010 11:44 PM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
This is part of a presales process to replace a few end of life EMC CX500 boxes.
We offered 2 scenario's: The first one was a migration to an EVA where we could use EMC SANcopy to pick up the LUNS from the EMC, copy them to the EVA and attach it to the servers.
The second scenario was a move to P4000G2 but since the technology was not fibre we need to try to make the migration as smooth as possible. No paintpoints. Several methods possible as explained in my first post but we we're looking for something similar as the EMC SANCopy procedure. Downtime, as always, is very limited..
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тАО09-20-2010 01:15 AM
тАО09-20-2010 01:15 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
For me, you're moving from block storage (FC) to block storage (iSCSI) so i'd still figure that connecting both to a high powered host should still be the fastest way to move the blocks, whether you use rsync at a file level (which is really a block mover anyway, just traversing over a filesystem) or even dd ?
the advantage as i see using rsync is that you can simultaneously keep systems going, pick up changes on a 2nd/3rd pass and even 'expand' on the fly to a new filesystem.
i'd assume SANcopy or equivalent tools pretty much give you the same sized lun on both sides ?
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тАО09-20-2010 03:07 AM
тАО09-20-2010 03:07 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
Assume we were talking about 100 or more servers and 5 or more different operating systems.
This could be a reason for using a uniform SAN based solution.
Pete
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тАО09-20-2010 03:24 AM
тАО09-20-2010 03:24 AM
Re: Data migration from EMC CX500 to HP P4000G2
In the end it's just a limitation of cost. Using a 1-1 tool migration we can dramatically decrease project costs.
Another issue is that we're competing againts Netapp and EMC. Nevertheless the customer is convinced about P4000...the cost of migrating to it should be taken into account.
Can I presume the MPX200 Migration is not an option since it's not supported, as well as the EMC SAN copy methodolgy?