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update 8.1 to 8.5

Harald Malek
Occasional Contributor

update 8.1 to 8.5

have anybody know how, how i can update from my CMC, P4500 and VSA 4000 from 8.1 to 8.5

which sequence: first CMC or P4500

documentation etc
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Bryan McMullan
Trusted Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

This is the path:

1. Install Updated CMC.
2. If applicable, upgrade the DSM's for MPIO.
3. Upgrade all Remote Clusters (normal -> managers -> VIPs).
4. Then in your local Clusters upgrade normal nodes (non manager/non VIP).
5. Upgrade managers
6. Upgrade VIP.

Then sit back and enjoy your 8.5 installation!
Harald Malek
Occasional Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

to 1: ok
to 2: i have no DSM`s for MPIO
to 3: what you meen with remote Cluster?
to 4: what you meen with non manager/non VIP
to 5: who can i do this?
to 6: who can i do this?

the upgrade for the node, i remove one node from the cluster turned off and boot with the CD?
Bryan McMullan
Trusted Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

A remote cluster is a group of nodes at a remote site that you push remote snapshots to. Since you are unaware of them, I will assume you don't have any.

By non-manager/nonVIP I mean nodes that are just Storage Servers. You can tell if a node is a Manager by clicking on the node in the CMC and looking at the Status field. It will either say "Storage Server Normal" or "Storage Server Normal, Manager Normal".

You can find what node is your VIP by clicking on the cluster in the CMC and clicking the iSCSI tab. You will see the storage node that is currently running as VIP (Virtual IP). Make note of that node as it will be the last one you will upgrade.

So your sequence would be:

1. Upgrade CMC.
2. Upgrade standard nodes (those that are not the VIP and show "Storage Server Normal" in the status in the CMC).
3. Upgrade the manager nodes (those that are not the VIP and show "Storage Server Normal, Manager Normal" in the CMC).
4 Upgrade the VIP, the node you saw iin the iSCSI tab when clicking on the cluster in the CMC.

Now you are done!
Harald Malek
Occasional Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

thank you

how can i upgrade the nodes?
only by CD or ofer "install software" in CMC?
Bryan McMullan
Trusted Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Make sure you download the upgrade files from:

ftp://saniq85:SAN85eap@ftp.usa.hp.com/

And you would do it from the CMC. Right click on a node and select Install Software. Then choose the upgrade file you downloaded from above and select the node you want to upgrade.

I'm sure HP/LH support could walk you through the first one so you can get the hang of it.
Steve Burkett
Valued Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Is it me or has the 8.5 release been handled really badly by HP? Normally with IT equipment, when new versions are released, the manufacturer makes some hoo-ha about it, you get some release notes showing what's new and what's fixed in this release, you get a walkthrough guide on how to upgrade including pre and post upgrade tasks and gotcha's to watch out for, and generally offer a bit of help on it. There's been practically nothing released by HP apart from the press release back in February that there was a new version coming out which increased usable space on your P4000 and a brief podcast on the Around the Storage Block blog. Oh and the new SAN/IQ 8.5 files. You have to figure out what to do with them to upgrade and what you'll get out of doing so.
Harald Malek
Occasional Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

i have no post from hp!
have you the upgrade guide?

have anyone upgrade the vsa from 8.1 to 8.5?
can i upgrade over the cmc the vsa without loosing data?

Bryan McMullan
Trusted Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

The release has been much the same as it has been in the past with other releases. Even when it was just LeftHand doing it.

Basically, 8.5 is still so new that they aren't quite pushing it. I think you'll see a greater push as the power users and the such adopt it.

All the guides are available at the link I posted above. You may need to download the ISO's for things and then burn them for the documentation.

Harald, I would highly suggest you contact HP support directly and ask them your questions.
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Sigh, sigh, sigh.

This is such a great product, but the communication and the way the software / documentation is provided...

well, let's be civil and say there is a lot room for improvement...
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Bryan McMullan
Trusted Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Uwe, definately agree with you on room for improvement. I've yet to hear from official channels that 8.5 had been released.

But, that's really what the community is for. Hopefully the Lefthand Community will develope better under HP. I was at the HP StorageWorks Techday in Houston a couple of weeks ago and there seems to be a lot of dedication to the P4000 series within HP and a lot of excitement. It's still just getting integrated into the HP mothership though (heck, think of how bad it was a year ago). Things are getting better and they're going to continue to get better.

The real question is.... when is 9.0 going to be released?!?
Paul Miano
Occasional Advisor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Follow this link:

http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02073063/c02073063.pdf

It is the upgrade guide for 8.5. There is a section in there on enlarging the OS partition for VSA due to VMTools being larger than in the past.

There was another gotcha that I can't find again about changing the replication from 2-way to RAID10 (the new default which means the same as 2-way). It noted that this change needs to be made in the cmc before updating the storage node or the volume could become unavailable after the update??? Has anyone else seen this?

paul
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

I think you are talking about the Availability/Redundancy setting which is documented in:

- HP StorageWorks P4000 Series SAN/iQ Release Notes
AX696-96008__20100329 (March 2010) [3ed] - c02073062

on page 5: "Redundancy mode removed from CMC"
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Paul Miano
Occasional Advisor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

That's the document!!!!

Upgrading volumes configured as 2â Way redundant may lead to a volume
availability issue:


Prior to release 8.5, replication priority allowed you to designate whether data availability or data
redundancy is more important in your SAN configuration. Beginning with release 8.5 and continuing
forward, the default is availability and the choices have been removed from the CMC. When upgrading
to release 8.5, all 2â Way volumes appear as Network RAID-10 (2â Way mirror). However, volumes
that were originally 2â Way redundant volumes may become unavailable under certain circumstances.
SAN/iQ software release notes 7
To ensure that 2â Way redundant volumes convert properly to Network RAID-10 (2â Way mirror),
before you upgrade, change the volume Replication Priority from Redundancy to Availability.
Olvi_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Hi!

Do I need new licenses if I update from 8.1 to 8.5? Anyone with experience?


Thanks in advance
-Olvi
Mark...
Honored Contributor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Hi,
1: No - you already have them
2: yes - VSA and h/w = no probs for me. make sure you read the 8.5 rel notes first though
Mark...
if you have nothing useful to say, say nothing...
Olvi_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: update 8.1 to 8.5

Thanks Mark... for quick response!

-Olvi