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08-05-2009 06:26 AM
08-05-2009 06:26 AM
We are in the process of upgrading to OpenVMS 8.3 from 7.3-2 (for Alpha). Our Dept. of Defense security guys go berserk over Java because they cannot abide by "mobile code" platforms. I will avoid casting aspersions regarding paranoia at this time, because it does no good. Water off a duck's back and all that.
So the DoD security gurus have essentially told me that the version of Java that we had on VMS 7.3-2 (which was Java 1.2-23) is no longer allowed on our systems. MUST be removed completely.
We are NOT web-enabled, either way you might considered it. I.e. we don't run the Web Server and we do not run a public version of DECwindows, so nobody has an X screen or any VMS-based browser. This also means no WEBES and no other obvious things that could be at least intermittantly and/or temporarily web-enabled on the system. Our system is more batch-oriented and character-cell-graphic menu driven than anything else.
So my question is, if we are not running any of our applications code under Java and we are not running Web-enabled, in or out, is there any part of the OpenVMS O/S that still needs Java? I just said I know of nothing obvious, but what bothers me is the less-than-obvious cases that crop up sometimes.
I want to remove Java but before I do, I thought it might be wise to know if I'm going to trip over a "gotcha" somewhere under obscure OpenVMS 8.3 operations.
By the way, if I can get away with it, I will not install the newer version of Java (I think 1.5-something, JDK 3.0) from the e-Business kit. I want to get to a system that has no Java at all if that is possible.
So the DoD security gurus have essentially told me that the version of Java that we had on VMS 7.3-2 (which was Java 1.2-23) is no longer allowed on our systems. MUST be removed completely.
We are NOT web-enabled, either way you might considered it. I.e. we don't run the Web Server and we do not run a public version of DECwindows, so nobody has an X screen or any VMS-based browser. This also means no WEBES and no other obvious things that could be at least intermittantly and/or temporarily web-enabled on the system. Our system is more batch-oriented and character-cell-graphic menu driven than anything else.
So my question is, if we are not running any of our applications code under Java and we are not running Web-enabled, in or out, is there any part of the OpenVMS O/S that still needs Java? I just said I know of nothing obvious, but what bothers me is the less-than-obvious cases that crop up sometimes.
I want to remove Java but before I do, I thought it might be wise to know if I'm going to trip over a "gotcha" somewhere under obscure OpenVMS 8.3 operations.
By the way, if I can get away with it, I will not install the newer version of Java (I think 1.5-something, JDK 3.0) from the e-Business kit. I want to get to a system that has no Java at all if that is possible.
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