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тАО09-04-2002 12:48 PM
тАО09-04-2002 12:48 PM
Now, add an XP client (we've tried Pro and Home). It forces us to set up users on the local client, which won't authenticate with the domain unless the usernames and passwords match the NT server exactly. This seems like an incredible duplication of effort.
If for example, the administrator on the server changes a user's password, he also has to go around to all clients where that user may log in, to change passwords there.
Am I completely off my rocker here? Can XP be told to behave like 95/98/ME for authentication purposes?
Another quirk, the user name "administrator" seems to be reserved on XP. Well, wouldn't you know, that's the name of our admin account on the NT server. I can't set up an "administrator" account on an XP client that will also authenticate on the NT server.
I would prefer -no- user accounts on the local XP clients, than go through what I'm going through now.
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тАО09-04-2002 01:47 PM
тАО09-04-2002 01:47 PM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
XP security change:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q318266
NT Servers with SP6a if have XP clients:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q313384
Jon
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тАО09-05-2002 06:11 AM
тАО09-05-2002 06:11 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
Thanks that's useful info.
Still I am looking for a method to keep us from having to change passwords both on the NT server and on each client, when passwords change.
Fred
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тАО09-05-2002 06:32 AM
тАО09-05-2002 06:32 AM
Solutionclick "Start"
right click "My Computer"
select "Properties"
click the "Computer Name" tab
click the "Change" button
click the "Domain" radio button
enter the domain name
click "OK"
It sounds to me like you haven't added the computers to the domain, which is causing you require local accounts. As I recall, there is no way to join Windows XP Home to a domain. Were there any error messages when joining/trying to join?
Of course, I may be "off my rocker" as well... but I sure hope this helps.
A few related Technet articles:
"How to Change a Computer Name or Join a Domain in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q295017&
"Cannot Join Windows XP Client to a Windows NT Domain"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q314366&
"Troubleshooting Joining Networks"
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prcf_omn_wbog.asp
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тАО09-05-2002 08:17 AM
тАО09-05-2002 08:17 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
1. You can join an NT 4.0 domain.
2. Having joined, then be able to have it behave as any other member workstation (i.e. accounts and authentication only on the PDC.
NT 4.0 MUST have SP6a installed to be able to address an XP workstation.
The XP workstation MUST NOT try to encrypt or sign secure channel data, or it will NOT be able to authenticate with an NT domain.
Have another look at the original articles I mentioned in the first posting.
Jon
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тАО09-05-2002 08:26 AM
тАО09-05-2002 08:26 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
Fred
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тАО09-05-2002 08:27 AM
тАО09-05-2002 08:27 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
Windows 95,98 and ME cannot be domain members. The users that login to these workstations can themselves be authenticated on an NT domain, but not their workstations.
NT workstation, 2000 pro and XP pro belong to the NT family, and MUST join the NT domain in order for users to be able to authenticate with the domain and have access to domain resources.
Michael gave a good example of how to add the XP workstation to the domain.
There are two ways of adding a workstation to a domain.
1. Have an Admin add the computer account prior to attempting to join the workstation to the domain, or
2. Have the Admin present when you atempt to join the workstation to the domain (it will prompt for and Admin ID and password if the computer account does not already exist).
Jon
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тАО09-24-2002 07:56 AM
тАО09-24-2002 07:56 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
Domain controller for the domain "DOMAIN" could not be contacted. etc...
Under details there is something about DOMAIN possibly being a NetBios domain, and to verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS.
We've had this network in place for years, all the NT4 servers are in this domain (yeah the domain is called DOMAIN) no problem.
Is WINS required with XP? Is the domain name DOMAIN in some way invalid for XP?
Still stuck,
Fred
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тАО09-24-2002 10:17 AM
тАО09-24-2002 10:17 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
"DOMAIN" is simply the default domain name that Windows enters (much like the default workgroup is "WORKGROUP".
And yes... XP either wants a WINS server, or at least a Master Browser to establish the secure link to the server when joining the domain.
Jon
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тАО09-24-2002 10:38 AM
тАО09-24-2002 10:38 AM
Re: XP Clients - NT 4.0 Server
I am not running WINS; I do have a browser service running though. That's what supplies data for "network neighborhood" right? Are there particular protocols required for that to work?