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тАО07-11-2011 01:12 AM
тАО07-11-2011 01:12 AM
ip fragments dropped
Hi,
I have been trying to resolve the issue of fragments being dropped on the nodes in a Oracle RAC cluster. We have implemented jumbo frames in the interconnct network which is using udp (Oracle is sending 8K packets). We have also increased the ip_reass_mem_limit = 8000000 and socket_udp_rcvbuf_default = 1048576. Should we continue to increase the ip_reass_mem_limit until the fragments being dropped stop ? Any input on how stop the fragments being dropped would be much appreciated. Please see the output from netstat -p ip and netstat -p tcp. The uptime on the node is 8 days. All interfaces are running 1000 Full-Duplex. I've also notice in measureware that I'm getting non zero values for NET_OUTQUEUE and when I drill down to the interfaces most of the queues are on the data network interfaces (1000 Full Duplex without jumbo frames) which is using tcp and not the interconnect interface.
ip:
488680685 total packets received
12 bad IP headers
10645546 fragments received
210 fragments dropped (dup or out of space)
7634 fragments dropped after timeout
0 packets forwarded
0 packets not forwardable
udp:
24 incomplete headers
21 bad checksums
3 socket overflows
Thanks
Mike
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тАО07-11-2011 02:04 AM
тАО07-11-2011 02:04 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
Hi 2 things
1)Do you have OracleRac error messages?
2) why don't you contact support?
If you have packet lost you may play very carefully increasing with kctune kernel param
11.31 str_syncq_limit
11.23 streams_sqmax
but you should only play with them under hp support direction.
It is 1000 by default, but try to have the smallest possible value without dropping. ( try 10000, then if not enough
100000).
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тАО07-11-2011 02:31 AM
тАО07-11-2011 02:31 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
Thank you for your response, we are seeing gc block lost in the oracle awr/statspack report.
My collegue has raised a call with support they have suggested that we change the ip_pmtu_strategy 3.
I'll keep your suggestion regarding str_syncq_limit in mind as the call progesses.
Thanks
Mike
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тАО07-11-2011 02:44 AM
тАО07-11-2011 02:44 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
gc block lost -> increase str_syncq_limit
In current context change ip_pmtu_strategy should be like painting your car in red, it is a nice colour, but it is a little cosmetic.
be very carefull changing str_syncq_limit, limit it to the strict needed value.
( try 10000, 100000, 500000) since in some condition the system may consume a lot of memory or have delaied message due to that limit.
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тАО07-11-2011 06:08 AM
тАО07-11-2011 06:08 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
you're seeing numbers stack up for NET_OUTQUEUE? That implies that stuff isn't able to make it off the box onto your network....which implies the issue may not be on the box at all but rather on the switch. have you raised this concern with your network folks?
also, is this box up-to-date for network patches?
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тАО07-11-2011 08:50 AM
тАО07-11-2011 08:50 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
We are seeing NET_OUTQUEUE numbers in measureware when the systems gets busy. I expected to see the NET_OUTQUEUE high on the interconnect interface but surprisingly the queue was on the application data interface.
I've asked the question of the network team and they say there are no errors on the switches. The nodes in the cluster are BL870's in C7000 enclosures and they are using Cicso 3020 Blade Ethernet Switches.
I've ran some netperf tests and we are getting 92mbs-111mbs over Gigabit Ethernet.
As we are not seeing any errors on the interface cards and the network team are not seeing any errors on the switch. We have been trying to tune the network stack but we are still seeing fragments dropped.
Any suggestions on how we can reduce/stop the dropped fragments would be much appreciated..
Thanks
Mike
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тАО07-13-2011 12:56 AM
тАО07-13-2011 12:56 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
Again, gc block lost -> increase str_syncq_limit
be very carefull changing str_syncq_limit, limit it to the strict needed value.
( try 10000, 50000, 100000, 500000) since in some condition the system may consume a lot of memory or have delaied message due to that limit.
there is a document in the database which confirm it ( I co-wrote the original for itrc database) and I could find what looks like to a chinese translation of some parts
Also str_syncq_limit is hidden and can only be seen if you do a kctune str_syncq_limit.
( you can ask to your hp support contact to just type 'gc block lost' in the internal or public database
he will find that information too)
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тАО07-13-2011 02:42 AM
тАО07-13-2011 02:42 AM
Re: ip fragments dropped
I mention the str_syncq_limit to hp support and he was very interested in this option. At hp supports request we are asking the question of Oracle , what value should we set str_syncq_limit ?
I saw the chinese extract of your paper, the only google search returned for str_syncq_limit . I'll pass on the note to hp support to search the internal database for this doc.
Whilst we are waiting on a response from Oracle we are going to patch the network cards as suggested by donna and hp support.
I'll keep this call update with our progress.
Thank you for your help