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Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

 
Norman Gayle jam
Occasional Visitor

Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

I have an iso image of vms integrity 8.3h1 which was created with poweriso, I am having problems booting it after it is burned to DVD. I have also used it as a virtual image and pointed it to the server and it failed to boot.

Is there a procedure to convert the iso so it will boot. If I do an LD connect on the ISO I can mount it with mount/medi=cdrom but it will not do a mount/over=id.

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Heuser-Hofmann
Frequent Advisor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

There is one big question:

How did you manage to put the data into the ISO-container?

If this is been done on a PC and you are using a PC-filesystem (ISO9660 or something similar) you cannot boot on a IA64 machine because it needs a special partition called GPT where vms_loader.efi is located in.

I'm sure you'll find on Hoff's homepage more details.

http://64.223.189.234/

regards
Eberhard
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

> I have an iso image of vms [...]

Bootable VMS discs do not contain (simple)
ISO 9660 file systems. You can make an image
of one, but calling it an "iso" doesn't mean
that it really is one. (ISO is, of course, a
standards organization, not a CD/DVD disc
format. "http://www.iso.org".)

> [...] created with poweriso, [...]

About which I know nothing, but the obvious
questions would be, "Starting from what?" and
"How, exactly?". And if "poweriso" does only
ISO 9660 file systems, then I'd guess that
it's doomed in this situation.

> I am having problems booting it [...]

Probably because it's junk.

> Is there a procedure to convert the iso
> [...]

Probably depends on what's in it, which
probably depends on how it was made, and from
what, but it seeems unlikely that there's any
simple way to do it.

> [...] I can mount it with mount/medi=cdrom
> but it will not do a mount/over=id.

Sounds like a real ISO 9660 image, but that's
not what VMS installation kits are.

The first question, obviously, would be, "Why
are you doing any of this"?
Norman Gayle jam
Occasional Visitor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

I need a copy of the dvd to complete an install of a new server, the quickest way was to ftp a copy of the DVD from my HP Rep.

The question is how would a copy of the dvd be done and then ftped.
Heuser-Hofmann
Frequent Advisor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

"a copy of the DVD" must been done by a program that simply copies 1:1 the bytes from the source to the target DVD without any interpretation/modification. Hope that your HP rep knows how to do this correctly.

eberhard
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

> [...] how would a copy of the dvd be done
> [...]

One simple way to extract an image of the DVD
would be:

mount /foreign dvd_device:
copy dvd_device: image_file

Might go faster with something like this
first:

SET RMS_DEFAULT /EXTEND_QUANTITY = 32768

Or use readcd from the cdrtools package, or
my qreadcd:

http://antinode.info/dec/sw/qreadcd.html

On GNU/Linux, use "dd". On Windows, ask
someone who knows.

> [...] and then ftped.

Binary FTP, as with any such file.
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

And when you have an uncorrupted DVD image,
write it to a DVD using some program which
does nothing other than write it to the DVD,
not some Clever-Dick program which believes
that it understands the content and "fixes"
it for you as it goes. (I use cdrecord, part
of that cdrtools package, but I assume that
your DVD writer is not installed in a VMS
system. The fact that I need to _assume_
anything should tell you something, too.)
Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

This image is corrupt.

Start over.

I'd suggest use of CDBurnerXP Pro or other such tool; the various well-known commercial Windows CD and DVD tools DO NOT WORK with OpenVMS volume structures. Until proven otherwise, always assume that the Windows CD and DVD tools DO NOT WORK with OpenVMS disk. This from direct personal experience with these tools. (I've encountered very well-known Windows programs that were quite simply entirely broken.)

Better yet, get yourself a real HP OpenVMS distro DVD disk set.

As for general reading material:

http://64.223.189.234/node/820
http://64.223.189.234/node/28

Ask your HP reseller or representative why HP doesn't have correctly-formatted OpenVMS DVD disk images available for download, too. That would increase the relative likelihood of success here, too, as roughly half of the problem space is in the image creation.
Peter Zeiszler
Trusted Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

When I get a good working .iso (i.e. firmware iso) I found that nero on a pc can burn the bootable CD. But I also make sure I don't have it try to do anything else.

Definitely start over trying to get a good .iso file.
Norman Gayle jam
Occasional Visitor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

Thanks,

I have asked for the copy to be Fedex, it appears the image created was bad from the start.

Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

Various versions of the Nero package work, and various versions of Nero most definitely don't work. I specifically looked at what that package did, as it was a common factor in the errors being reported. And versions of it were broken.
Heuser-Hofmann
Frequent Advisor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

Hoof wrote:
"Various versions of the Nero package work, and various versions of Nero most definitely don't work. I specifically looked at what that package did, as it was a common factor in the errors being reported. And versions of it were broken."

Nero is a good (german) product!

My Nero Version 7.11.10.0 burns a bootable DVD-R (DVD+R were not accepted!) of OpenVMS I64 V8.3-1H1.

eberhard
Enrico Granata
Occasional Visitor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

On Windows, I would use IsoBuster. It can't read ODS, but is pefectly able to replicate a disk byte-by-byte just as dd would on *nix systems
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Burning DVD form ISO VMS 8.3

> [...] just as dd would on *nix systems

You make CDs and DVDs on UNIX (-like) systems
using "dd"? Interesting.