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тАО06-23-2009 04:54 AM
тАО06-23-2009 04:54 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
raid 1+0 would be implemented in hardware in the msa1000.
hth
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тАО06-23-2009 06:12 AM
тАО06-23-2009 06:12 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
i think we have 128k file sizes (minimum 273 blocks on our small files on database drives)would this improve or slow down the resore process.
Am i correct in assuming our current 185Gb of data could be restored on raid5 is 58mbs eg take about 45 minutes?
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тАО06-23-2009 06:16 AM
тАО06-23-2009 06:16 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
Details on splitting off volumes are in the recent OpenVMS volume shadowing manual. In general terms, you quiesce the database operations, split off the volume, and off you go. You have a disk with a parallel copy of the database and the rest of the data on the disk, and can spin it off to tape at your leisure.
The downside of this technique applied to a database is the possibility of inconsistent data due to in-flight changes. Which is why most production databases including Oracle offer archival processing. Similarly, with MySQL, you'd use the mysqldump tool, and with Rdb you'd use RMU /BACKUP.
SDLT and Ultrium tapes are often faster than disks for various common operations, so I'd have to wonder if the host can supply the data fast enough to keep the drive streaming. SDLT and Ultrium are very sensitive to speeds and feeds, but (when they're streaming) very fast.
BACKUP on OpenVMS is sensitive to the process quotas and (when quotas are tuned correctly, and dependent on the particular setting of /LOAD on recent versions of BACKUP on OpenVMS) can consume an entire processor; it'll drive a tape drive at pretty close to its theoretical limit. The usual limits are then I/O bandwidth, I/O contention or (commonly) disk fragmentation.
http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/49
I'd expect Oracle also has quota recommendations.
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тАО06-23-2009 06:17 AM
тАО06-23-2009 06:17 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
which one you pick depends on your needs :-
disk to disk backup - requires an application outage , just purchase disks so is the cheaper option and simplest to implement
shadowing - virtually no application outage, requires disks and software license so is the more expensive and complex option.
fwiw
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тАО06-23-2009 06:57 AM
тАО06-23-2009 06:57 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
Consider fully testing your recovery path. That testing will also and entirely incidentally tell you how long the process requires. And more critical than the elapsed time required, whether the particular recovery produces a functional result.
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тАО06-23-2009 07:23 AM
тАО06-23-2009 07:23 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
those figures are test lab results, so they are possible but as hoff has stated the only way to find out your 'real-world' figures is to test the solution fully.
fwiw
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тАО06-23-2009 07:27 AM
тАО06-23-2009 07:27 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
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тАО06-23-2009 08:07 AM
тАО06-23-2009 08:07 AM
Re: D2D backup solutions for VMS
http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/410
http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/93
Having looked at the costs of the disk spindles and at the data around error rates, it's been years since I've configured RAID-5 anywhere.
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