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тАО09-02-2006 01:48 AM
тАО09-02-2006 01:48 AM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
I've already heard something like "OpenVMS has nearly come to its end-of-life".
Dying VMS is:
- #1 rated in Healthcare
- 30% of mobile phones billed in the world
- 50% of the world's SMS transactions
- 50% of the world's top Exchanges
- 66% of funds transfers
- Dominant presence in Lottery systems
- Leading supplier to Semiconductor manufacturers worldwide
Read here
http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/files/unprotected/openvms/10-25-05OpenVMSOverviewseminarbox.ppt
Migration is more work than compiling on new target platform.
Talk your management and them if they want save money running Itanium or they want spend money in difficult migration process.
Antonio
http://it.openvms.org
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тАО09-03-2006 09:35 PM
тАО09-03-2006 09:35 PM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
Over here we are in phase out since about 10 years. The latest plan is to move the application functionality from Belgium to an application in the Netherlands. But this application misses a lot of the functionalities needed for Belgian law. So, development is needed.
And the application in the Netherlands is going to be replaced itself within 2 years ... by an application in Belgium. That will need to be developped by a team having a lot of backlog. And no knowledge of the VMS application.
Could take another 10 years. By then we will be one of the last Alpha customers.
Wim
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тАО09-05-2006 07:38 PM
тАО09-05-2006 07:38 PM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
RE:
> and the powers that be are having us move to multiple flavors of unix {shrug}.
Have you or the powers seen HP's UNIX portability initiative page ?
Link:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/portability/index.html
Especially the goals. I believe a GNV update is due very soon (if not already out).
We use ISVs that will be looking at porting software to VMS as a result of this.
John.
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тАО09-06-2006 04:08 AM
тАО09-06-2006 04:08 AM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
My main point is that at a business level, if oracle is not ready on VMS itanium, VMS itanium is not ready. HP has screwed the pooch (in this case, feel free to substitute 'VMS customer' for 'pooch') by accelerating the discontinuation of alpha while fundamental apps are not yet available, and by not making it a top priority to insure that an app as critical as oracle was available at this late stage of the game.
VMS (and thus HP - most people won't go to HP-UX after feeling ill-treated) will be losing big projects because of this.
It's sad because the VMS engineering team has done such a phenomenal job with VMS itanium, and, in general, with recent releases of VMS.
The VMS itanium development seminars are also fantastically done, so it's a little surprising that oracle is so delayed.
Obviously, oracle corp. is at fault, but it's ultimately HP's responsibility to push their platforms. This is marketing 101, but HP has so many marketing resources allocated to windows, something they don't even produce, the rest is streched thin.
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тАО09-06-2006 04:36 AM
тАО09-06-2006 04:36 AM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
Farewell my fellow VMS fans
(at least here at work. Home I have 2 alpha servers ├в WOOT)
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тАО09-06-2006 04:41 AM
тАО09-06-2006 04:41 AM
Re: Departing paradise - OpenVMS
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