Edit when booted minimal

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

I would like to be able to edit files when I have booted in mode minimal on a graphical station (vrc21). With edt or eve and in full screen mode, not line mode. And be able to use the do key.

I do a set dev/type=vt200 or vt100 but I only get a very confused eve.

Anyone a solution ?

[H_Bachner]

Sorry, this is not possible. The graphics console uses only a minimal device driver which does not support screen mode.

As I "learned" VMS on a LA120, the EDT line mode commands I used at that time are still handy for editing on the console :-)

Regards,
Hans.

[Craig A Berry]

$ SET TERM/VT52

generally does the trick for EDT. I can't remember whether TPU can function in this mode or not.

[Uwe Zessin]

Unfortunately not:
$ edit/tpu login.com
%TPU-E-NONANSICRT, SYS$INPUT must be supported CRT
$

[Hein van den Heuvel]

Uwe,

Craig wrote... "for EDT". Try EDITX/EDT ...

SET TERM/VT52 will work. (Thank you Fred Kleinsorge! :-).


Hein.

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Just tried it (VMS 7.3 on ALPHAstation 500).

Doesn't work. Each time I type return the whole screen is redrawn. And it doesn't look like edt. Or did you all mean "only line editing mode".

Term char :
Terminal: _OPA0: Device_Type: VT52 Owner: SYSMGR_WVW

Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 80 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 24

Terminal Characteristics:
Interactive Echo Type_ahead No Escape
No Hostsync TTsync Lowercase Tab
Wrap Scope
No Remote No Eightbit
No Broadcast No Readsync No Form Fulldup
No Modem No Local_echo
No Autobaud No Hangup
No Brdcstmbx No DMA
No Altypeahd Set_speed
No Commsync No Line Editing Insert editing No Fallback
No Dialup No Secure server
No Disconnect No Pasthru
No Syspassword No SIXEL Graphics No Soft Characters No Printer port
Numeric Keypad No ANSI_CRT No Regis No Block_mode
No Advanced_video
No Edit_mode
No DEC_CRT No DEC_CRT2
No DEC_CRT3 No DEC_CRT4
No DEC_CRT5 No Ansi_Color
VMS Style Input


Btw : after a few minutes, my stations blocks completely without 1 message. I have to do a power off/on (control P no longer working). Even the keyboard is no longer seen (holdscreen gives no green led).

[Uwe Zessin]

Hein,
I responded to this sencence from him: "I can't remember whether TPU can function in this mode or not."

[Craig A Berry]

Van, there is definitely VT52 emulation in most Alpha graphics consoles, and EDT does work in full screen mode, though with some limitations. Search comp.os.vms archives for more confirmation of that. I suppose it's remotely possible that the AlphaStation 500 didn't get the same treatment all the other machines of that vintage got, but it doesn't seem likely.

It may seem obvious, but confirm that you are indeed in the Alpha graphics console: it will say "OpenVMS Alpha Console" on the 25th line of the screen. You might also confirm that you have the latest firmware for your machine. The other symptoms you describe could have many causes, so I'm not sure what else to recommend.

[Uwe Zessin]

I don't have an Alpha at the moment to try, but I have an idea what the problem with the missing emulation might be:

when the system is booted with a 'minimum boot', then there is no autoconfiguration done. If I recall correctly, the "OpenVMS Alpha Console" that Craid has mentioned appears only after an 'MCR SYSMAN IO AUTOCONFIGURE' has run.

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

When booting minimal, nothing is shown on the 25th line.

Did a IO AUTO and still not functioning.

And still a hang after some minutes.