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тАО04-08-2008 09:51 AM
тАО04-08-2008 09:51 AM
Solved! Go to Solution.
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тАО04-08-2008 10:17 AM
тАО04-08-2008 10:17 AM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
This does not identify the IP software, nor,
consequently, the FTP server. If we assume
HP's TCPIP (as in "TCPIP SHOW VERSION")...
I don't use MSIE, so all I know is what I see
on my (VMS) FTP server. From what I've seen,
MSIE has no idea how to interpret the VMS
directory listings, so it's pointless to try
to use it with a TCPIP FTP server.
I haven't observed MSIE causing repeated
log-in failures at my FTP server, but it's so
lame that it could do almost anything without
amazing me.
> [...] log on [...]
Anonymous FTP, or specifying a real user name
and password?
> Is this a OpenVMS limitation and how do I
> change it??
First, you might look at the FTP server logs
on the VMS system, to see what's actually
happening. Then, when you decide that MSIE
is doomed in this situation, you might try a
more capable FTP client, like a better Web
browser, or a dedicated FTP client like, say,
SmartFTP,
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тАО04-08-2008 11:29 AM
тАО04-08-2008 11:29 AM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
$ ucx sh service ftp/full
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тАО04-08-2008 11:29 AM
тАО04-08-2008 11:29 AM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
However you do need to look at the logs.
IE is probably making multiple connections to your system
Purely Personal Opinion
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тАО04-08-2008 12:45 PM
тАО04-08-2008 12:45 PM
Solutionappears that MSIE ("ident:IEUser@") logs in
and out much more frequently than other
clients, often once for each FTP command.
Thus, if there's an authorization problem, it
could quickly be interpreted as a break-in
attempt.
It also routinely fails to distinguish a VMS
directory spec from a file name, leading to
such doomed commands as:
CWD dir:SYS$POSIX_ROOT^:^[misc^]xp1000sg.exe
(which, I'd guess, also got a gratuitous
slash tacked on, in case it wasn't defective
enough to begin with.)
On the bright side, some poor fellow on the
HP-UX forum can't get it to work right, even
with a _UNIX_ FTP server:
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1220322
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тАО04-08-2008 01:11 PM
тАО04-08-2008 01:11 PM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
Here is the output fromthe ucx sho service ftp/full
Service: FTP
State: Enabled
Port: 21 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
Inactivity: 5 User_name: TCPIP$FTP Process: TCPIP$FTP
Limit: 10 Active: 0 Peak: 9
File: TCPIP$SYSTEM:TCPIP$FTP_RUN.COM
Flags: None
Socket Opts: Rcheck Scheck
Receive: 0 Send: 0
Log Opts: Acpt Actv Dactv Conn Error Exit Logi Logo Mdfy Rjct TimO Addr
File: SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$FTP]TCPIP$FTP_RUN.LOG
Security
Reject msg: not defined
Accept host: 0.0.0.0
Is the limit shown here meaning concurrent connections as in only 10 connections are allowed at 1 time..???
I think I answered most of the questions...:-)
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тАО04-08-2008 01:30 PM
тАО04-08-2008 01:30 PM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
> questions...:-)
> (as in "TCPIP SHOW VERSION")...
> Is the limit shown here meaning concurrent
> connections as in only 10 connections are
> allowed at 1 time..???
tcpip help set service /limit
So, I'd expect your FTP server log to be:
SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$FTP]TCPIP$FTP_RUN.LOG
Its contents may offer some clues to what's
happening.
On the bright side, Firefox on a Mac doesn't
do a very good job with a TVPIP FTP server,
either. It's better than MSIE, but file and
directory names which are long enough to be
presented on two lines confuse it (until it
sees the first short name -- goofy). And
Safari is about as hopeless as MSIE.
Isn't it interesting that TCPIP doesn't
include an FTP server which anyone else
likes, and its vendor seems unable or
unwilling to try to get popular Web browsers
changed to accomodate the FTP server it does
have?
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тАО04-08-2008 01:44 PM
тАО04-08-2008 01:44 PM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
I am the elmjr1 userid.... I can log on fine with siad userID
%TCPIP-I-FTP_SESCON, FTP SERVER: session connection from 10.53.20.65 at 8-APR-`
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHID, unknown rights identifier
%TCPIP-E-FTP_LOGFAL, remote interactive login failure anonymous
-TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 10.53.20.65
-LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user
%TCPIP-I-FTP_SESCON, FTP SERVER: session connection from 10.53.20.65 at 8-APR-`
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHID, unknown rights identifier
%TCPIP-E-FTP_LOGFAL, remote interactive login failure anonymous
-TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 10.53.20.65
-LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user
%TCPIP-I-FTP_SESCON, FTP SERVER: session connection from 10.53.20.65 at 8-APR-`
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHID, unknown rights identifier
%TCPIP-E-FTP_LOGFAL, remote interactive login failure anonymous
-TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 10.53.20.65
-LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user
%TCPIP-I-FTP_SESCON, FTP SERVER: session connection from 10.53.20.65 at 8-APR-`
%TCPIP-E-FTP_LOGFAL, remote interactive login failure ELMJR1
-TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 10.53.20.65
-LOGIN-F-EVADE, break-in evasion in effect
I guess I cant pin-point the "unknown rights identifier" part of this log..
I am the admin on the ES40 , but I have used 3rd party ftp software in the past and not TCPIP's FTP.. There is no $$ in the budget for this system since its going away next year...
And thanks for all your input BTW
"Isn't it interesting that TCPIP doesn't
include an FTP server which anyone else
likes, and its vendor seems unable or
unwilling to try to get popular Web browsers
changed to accomodate the FTP server it does
have?"
I wouldnt think FTP would be going away so maybe folks dont like making changes to stuff that works (limited as it is)... If it aint broke dont fix it kinda thing...??
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тАО04-08-2008 03:59 PM
тАО04-08-2008 03:59 PM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
failing "anonymous" log-in requests, followed
by an attempt as user ELMJR1, which fails
because all the "anonymous" failures have
poisoned the well:
-TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 10.53.20.65
-LOGIN-F-EVADE, break-in evasion in effect
After enough failures from one IP address,
even valid info will be rejected for a while.
> I guess I cant pin-point the "unknown
> rights identifier" part of this log..
Knowing nothing, I'd assume that it's
specific to the "anonymous" user, which, I
gather, you don't have.
Without knowing exactly what you're doing
with your browser, it's hard to say what's
causing all the (failing) "anonymous" log-in
requests.
You might be happier if you enabled anonymous FTP (SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM, "Optional
components"), even if you don't actually
intend to use it for anything. If nothing
else, it should evade the LOGIN-F-EVADE
problem (symptom?).
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тАО04-11-2008 07:08 AM
тАО04-11-2008 07:08 AM
Re: FTP to Alpha ES40 running Open VMS 7.3-1
Thanks