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тАО03-11-2004 06:03 AM
тАО03-11-2004 06:03 AM
UIC: [100,53] ([100,53])
I want to change it to
UIC: [100,53] ([DEVELOP,SDIMMICK])
Is there a way to do this?
Thanks
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тАО03-11-2004 06:14 AM
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тАО03-11-2004 06:28 AM
тАО03-11-2004 06:28 AM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
$ SET DEFAULT SYS$SYSTEM
$ RUN AUTHORIZE
UAF> add/identifier SDIMMICK /value=uic=[100,53]
UAF> exit
change the /value portion to read:
/value=uic:[100,53]
the second = should be a :
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тАО03-11-2004 06:36 AM
тАО03-11-2004 06:36 AM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
the online help indeed says to use ':', but two '=' work for me on OpenVMS Alpha V6.2-1H3 and V7.3-1.
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тАО03-11-2004 08:46 AM
тАО03-11-2004 08:46 AM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
My memory may be faulty, but I thought I had failed using the = at some point. It was a while ago and we have different VAX and Alpha systems at different VMS versions, so I cannot provide any details. If my memory is wrong, I may just also have seen it in the help and never tried the = assuming it would fail.
Actually, I just tried on several of our systems and the = worked on all of them, so I guess my memory is faulty and I always just followed the format indicated in the help.
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тАО03-11-2004 09:02 AM
тАО03-11-2004 09:02 AM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
If your memory is failing, mine is in the same way. It indeed used to NOT work on Vax, but I remember my surprise when I 'mistakenly' used "=" on AXP, which I only realised when I noted it did NOT produce an error. (behavior now is just like SET PROTECT=W=RE and the likes).
Ciny,
just depending on whether your uic group 100 was already named, but if it was NOT, then you also need
UAF> add/ident develop/val=uic:[100,*]/attrib=resource
(note the "*" as pseudo-member value, and DON'T forget the RESOURCE attribute.
fwiw,
Jan
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тАО03-11-2004 09:07 AM
тАО03-11-2004 09:07 AM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
Thanks for the confirmation. One of the systems I tested tonight was a VAXStation 4000-60 at VMS V7.1 and it accepted the command without error.
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тАО03-11-2004 06:34 PM
тАО03-11-2004 06:34 PM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
Has anybody time and interest to try ':='? No, I don't know know the result, yet.
Jan,
are you sure about the ressource attribute? I have never seen that set by default on a general identifier for the UIC group. Correct me if I am wrong, but my memory tells me that that attribute is used when a directory or file is _owned_ by that identifier (a little bit like Unix groups).
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тАО03-11-2004 07:42 PM
тАО03-11-2004 07:42 PM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
right again (one half). I was able to find a group identifier name without RESOURCE attrib.
I even was able to create a file with that identifier as owner, as long as QUOTA is not enabled.
However, if you want your users to be able to create files owned by a group by default, THEN the RESOURCE comes into play.
It became so implented when resource uses were butgetted and had to be accounted.
Somehow it has become so ingrained that I never considered otherwise...
Jan
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тАО03-11-2004 08:37 PM
тАО03-11-2004 08:37 PM
Re: How to change name equivalent of UIC
I had wanted to point out that the RESOURCE attribute is not the default for a group identifier.
Of course you can not create a file owned by a resource identifier when you have no disk quota entry or missing the EXQUOTA privilege! An identifier is just a 32-bit value (like the UIC), but it has the most-significant-bit set.
I have used resource identifiers myself in VMS V4.7 and I understand that it is easy to forget that not all things are set up the same way in every place - happens to me, too...