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тАО12-03-2010 11:40 AM
тАО12-03-2010 11:40 AM
Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
I know you define proxies in AUTHORIZE and enable them in NCP, but is there a way to actually see what is in use? i.e. the seemingly appropriate MCR NCP SHOW KNOWN PROXIES command doesn't exist.
Cheers,
Art
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тАО12-03-2010 12:09 PM
тАО12-03-2010 12:09 PM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
Don't remember how, though.
WRT your question, I think some other show command might give a clue (waving my hands here, I don't have a working phase IV system at the moment). Perhaps SHOW LINK. Is there a SHOW PROCESS?
Good luck.
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тАО12-03-2010 12:33 PM
тАО12-03-2010 12:33 PM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
I'm not sure what you mean by "in use"?
Are you looking for processes that have logged in using a proxy, or are you looking for proxies that are defined, but haven't been used, and are maybe should be deleted?
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тАО12-03-2010 12:35 PM
тАО12-03-2010 12:35 PM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
Art
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тАО12-03-2010 01:20 PM
тАО12-03-2010 01:20 PM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
In that case you just need to NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR to see whether or not it is enabled.
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тАО12-05-2010 12:52 PM
тАО12-05-2010 12:52 PM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
I don't have a phase IV system to look at, but it appears you've found (yet another) hole in NCP. Sarcastic answer to any NCP query is - they fixed that about 15 years ago when NCL was released!
You may be able to infer your scenario indirectly by enabling the appropriate audits and event logging then comparing UAF audits with NCP events. Look for proxy changes in the audit journal and SET KNOWN PROXIES commands from NCP.
Alternative would be to look at defined proxies from UAF SHOW/PROX or, you can
$ DUMP/RECORD NETPROXY
(or, if the logical name is not defined)
$ DUMP/RECORD SYS$STARTUP:NETPROXY.DAT
If they're all legitimate
$ MCR NCP SET KNOWN PROXIES ALL
You now know the set of active proxies.
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тАО12-06-2010 01:49 AM
тАО12-06-2010 01:49 AM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
the NCP SET KNOWN PROXIES ALL is typically NOT needed on a DECnet Phase IV system. You just define the PROXY with AUTHORIZE and it starts working immediately. Just verified it on an OpenVMS I64 V8.2 DECnet-IV system...
I remember to have have read somewhere, that this command was only required on 'some implementations of DECnet-IV', but I can't find this reference anymore.
Volker.
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тАО12-06-2010 06:30 AM
тАО12-06-2010 06:30 AM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
Just as a note to Volker's reply, IIRC if you add a proxy just after a failed FAL access attempt, that proxy is not effective until the FAL server process times out and runs down. This changed with DECnet Plus, where proxies seem to be effective immediately even if a server process is still out there.
Kelly
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тАО12-06-2010 10:29 AM
тАО12-06-2010 10:29 AM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
UAF> Show/Proxy *::*
Use the List/PRoxy command to output to a file, Netproxy.lis.
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тАО12-06-2010 11:06 AM
тАО12-06-2010 11:06 AM
Re: Is there a way to see active Decnet (IV) proxies?
I know in the past we had some sort of issue that caused us to start using the NCP SET command to get proxies "active".
When a proxy access is requested, is the proxy file accessed/read, or are they kept in memory?
Cheers,
Art