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тАО06-29-2007 07:03 AM
тАО06-29-2007 07:03 AM
Just thought I'd ask here rather than reinvent the wheel...
Solved! Go to Solution.
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тАО06-29-2007 09:38 PM
тАО06-29-2007 09:38 PM
Re: Kronos on i64?
if you are not focussed on KRONOS, the CRON Kit contains executables for all 3 architecures:
http://www.the-rohwedders.de/downloads/index.html
regards Kalle
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тАО06-30-2007 02:02 AM
тАО06-30-2007 02:02 AM
Re: Kronos on i64?
I have not looked at Kronos recently.
In general, if MERLIB is missing the sources, I would consider building it as a shareable library and translating it using the binary translator.
As has been demonstrated with MONITOR (which on Alpha was a binary translation of successive VAX executables until 7.3-2), the performance of translated images is often quite acceptable.
The binary translator can also be used as a strategic tool to improve migration schedules, as discussed in my recent OpenVMS Technical Journal article "Strategies for Migrating from Alpha and VAX systems to HP Integrity Servers on OpenVMS" (the abstract and pointers to the OpenVMS Technical Journal www site are at: http://www.rlgsc.com/publications/vmstechjournal/migrationstrategies.html ).
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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тАО07-01-2007 05:13 AM
тАО07-01-2007 05:13 AM
Re: Kronos on i64?
I have been maintaining a modifed 2.II version on Alphaserver, which I believe I did totally from sources (i.e. no object libraries).
Fixed problems with not accepting TAB as whitespace, and problems accepting quoted arguement strings with embedded spaces.
I will check when back at work tomorrow, and advise.
Regards,
Duncan
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тАО07-01-2007 08:48 AM
тАО07-01-2007 08:48 AM
Re: Kronos on i64?
http://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/001016.html
Ask nicely, and he might package it up for you.
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тАО07-01-2007 11:21 AM
тАО07-01-2007 11:21 AM
Re: Kronos on i64?
Karl -- I've been using Kronos on several systems for several years. While I'm not averse to learning something new, I'm also interested in maintaining consistency. If I find that building Kronos on i64 isn't practical, I'll look into Cron instead.
Bob -- I've got the Merlib sources, just no canned build procedure. All the module sources are inside a single .TLB, and some are Fortran, some Macro. It would've been nice if there'd been a BUILD.COM, know what I mean?
Duncan -- thanks! I'll be looking forward to what you've got. Have you done it on i64 or only Alpha? Even just a current Alpha build procedure with contemporary compilers would be interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing your fixes, btw.
Hoff -- if we can get a current build for both Alpha and i64, I think it sounds like a candidate for Freeware v9!
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тАО07-01-2007 06:31 PM
тАО07-01-2007 06:31 PM
Re: Kronos on i64?
If MERLIB is defined as the LNK$LIBRARY, personally I would be interested if it would be more appropriate to package it as a shareable library and define a logical to point to it.
My standing rule is to make common components of anything but the most modest piece shareable libraries (particularly since the shareable library mechanism is fully available to non-privileged users).
For the record, I presented "OpenVMS Shareable Libraries: An Implementor's Guide" discussed some of these issues at the 2000 Compaq Enterprise Technology Symposium. The notes from that session are at: http://www.rlgsc.com/cets/2000/460.html
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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тАО07-01-2007 09:05 PM
тАО07-01-2007 09:05 PM
SolutionI have zipped up a copy of the kronos tree at
http://duncanmorris.selfip.net/kron211.zip
I recompiled all the modules in MERLIB.TLB - but it was nearly 2 years ago now, and I do not see a saved build procedure!
I used Fortran V7.6 on Alpha VMS 7.3-2, although I am now using VMS V8.3.
Regretably, I do not have the luxury of an IA64 box to play with.
I hope that it may help anyway,
Duncan
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тАО07-01-2007 09:34 PM
тАО07-01-2007 09:34 PM
Re: Kronos on i64?
I think all the source files can be compiled/assembled without special definitions.
In my archive at
http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmssig/nasa/
find merlib_src.zip, and merlib_build.com (a simple list of Fortran/Macro commands built from the directory listing) .
But be aware that some routines will compile and work only on Vax.
There is a merlib.readme file containing a list of Vax-only routines.
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тАО07-03-2007 08:27 AM
тАО07-03-2007 08:27 AM
Re: Kronos on i64?
Next, define Lnk$Library to point to Merlib.olb.
Note that you've got to next pre-build the FPP program in the [.Source] directory (FORTRAN FPP, LINK FPP worked for me; then create a foreign command before the next step.) The link has to be done after defining the above Lnk$Library.
I had to restore the original Make.com that came with the kit -- your Alpha-specific EV56 tweaks had to go, of course. Once that was done, @make and *poof*, we've got EXE!
Don't forget to compile and link [.source]find_job.for and [.resources]check_process.for. NB: there's a find_job.for in the root Kronos directory; me thinks it may be superfluous garbage...
Thanks for your help, Duncan -- your update saved me a lot of grief due to your code fixes!