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MBOX and Neill Clift

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Shael Richmond
Frequent Advisor

MBOX and Neill Clift

Does anybody have an e-mail address for Neill Clift? The one in the package is not longer valid.

We use his MBOX utility and would like a minor enhancement. With 7.3-1 the bufquo for a mailbox can get larger then 64k. The new size is in a different part of the device structure. So MBOX shows 65535 instead of 250000.

It's written in Macro is someone else want's to take a shot at it!


Thanks,

Shael
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Peter Quodling
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

I was about to suggest the folk at Yezerski ROper, who were VMS bods in the UK, but I note their web sites, says they are now in Liquidation. Try elliott.roper@gmail.com - he may know where to find Neill. I'll ask another Brit VMS bod, off-line.

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Peter Quodling
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

My friend in the UK has no idea.

I have just search www.192.com which is the UK phone book. There are 107 N Clift's, and about a dozen Neil Clifts, but not Neill Clifts. Must have fled the country, or reverted to anonymity, because of his coding prowess...

I am grabbing the kit, and will look at the code later tonight...

q
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Volker Halle
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Shael,

I've copied MBOX V1.6 from Hunter Goatley's FILESERV
http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MBOX

and made the appropriate changes to support V7.3-1 or higher. It now also works in OpenVMS I64 V8.2:

$ cre/mai/buf=100000 test
$ mbox test

Device: MBA167: (TEST/LNM$JOB_884E0E40)

Channels: 1, Operations: 0, Creator: 37E00156 (SYSTEM)

Total size: 100000, Remaining: 100000, Message size: 256, Msgs: 0

$ open/read/write x test
$ write/nowait x "hallo"
$ mbox test

Device: MBA167: (TEST/LNM$JOB_884E0E40)

Channels: 2, Operations: 1, Creator: 37E00156 (SYSTEM)

Total size: 100000, Remaining: 99995, Message size: 256, Msgs: 1

Message number: 1, 5 bytes, Written by: 37E00158 (SYSTEM_192)
6F 6C6C6168 hallo............... 00000000

$ read x line
$ sho sym line
LINE = "hallo"
$ close x
$ dele/mail test

I have disabled the unsupported /SIZE qualifier, as it caused a KRNLSTAKNV crash on our rx2600. If I get some more time, I'll try to analyze this problem as well. An %IMAC-I-UNRCHCODE informational message is now expected during assembly/compilation.

I've attached a DIFFERENCES listing against the original files.

If you'll find Neill, please have him contact me, so I can send him the updated sources.

Volker.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Shael,

I've tested this program (including the undocumented /SIZE= parameter) on OpenVMS VAX V6.2, Alpha V7.3-1 and Alpha V8.2 - no problems seen so far. I've made 2 additional changes to also update the old UCB$W_xxxQUO fields for consistency.

But on OpenVMS I64 V8.2, it crashes when using the /SIZE parameter - other usage seems o.k. Still open for investigation...

Volker.
Willem Grooters
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Those that made enhancements: Can these be published for download? Hunter Goatley's site is a possibility, if needed I have space available as well.

Willem
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Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Note that my MBU utility may do what you want and its under active development and I know it works on V7.3-2.

See http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MBU

you may also find MBMON of interest
http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MBMON

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Ian Miller.
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

I think Neill Clift turned to the dark side and went to work for Microsoft. Sad news about yrl as they where an interesting company.
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Ian Miller.
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Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Shael, I notice you have assigned points to 11 out of 43 responses to your questions. See
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/pageList.do?userId=CA1002350&listType=unassigned&forumId=1

See
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33
for help on assigning.
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Shael Richmond
Frequent Advisor

Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Ian,

I had an address for Neill at Microsoft but that didn't work either.

BTW I know about points, I didn't read any replies until this morning :)


Shael
Shael Richmond
Frequent Advisor

Re: MBOX and Neill Clift

Volker,

Thanks alot that worked great.

I'm only using it on Alpha right now so
the I64 stuff isn't a problem.

Thanks again,


Shael