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тАО09-28-2006 10:20 AM
тАО09-28-2006 10:20 AM
I am proposing adding a job scheduler to the mix. Besides the several promient commercial offerings, most freeware searches lead to Cron (and/or Kronos). Is this a recommended solution to pursue for job scheduling? Is this any better than the current use of the VMS Submit command? Does this require "Installation" on OpenVMS? Can someone point me to how-to documentation? I am a developer/analyst by trade, but trying to help establish operations standards in the dept.
No amount of information/suggestions will go un-appreciated. I am starting from the ground up in many areas in I.T. In most of my previous employement, these "infrastructure & tool" decisions had already been made and implemented. I just had to follow the rules. Here, we are needing to establish those rules.
Thanks,
John Farmer
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тАО09-28-2006 12:07 PM
тАО09-28-2006 12:07 PM
SolutionInstallation on OpenVMS means different things to different people. In the systems sense, it generally means moving files into various systems directories. Your earlier comments in a different thread inquired about PCSI kits. PCSI (if memory serves, originally named PolyCenter Software Installation) is a OpenVMS component for packaging and distributing software and updates. The "installing" user uses the PRODUCT INSTALL command, with a supplied file (a PCSI file) as implicit input (the names are formulaic based upon architecture and product name).
PCSI kits can also be generated. All of the components and utilities need to generate the kits are present on a normal OpenVMS system (the utilities are documented in the OpenVMS documentation set, accessible at http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ).
Depending upon how the applications on your site are organized, adopting a job scheduling product can be easy or a major product, there is no way to determine this without a careful look at your activities. Some organizations have implemented their own job scheduling, others have not.
I hope that the above is helpful.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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тАО09-28-2006 12:48 PM
тАО09-28-2006 12:48 PM
Re: OpenVMS Job Scheduler - Recomendations
SUBMIT, and even more with command procedures
which re-SUBMIT themselves.
On the other hand, a pre-fab tool which can
run something on the last Thursday of every
month can save some DCL effort.
It all depends on your actual requirements.
One method of attack might be to try to write
the DCL to do what you need. If/when that
gets cumbersome and/or frustrating, you'll
have a better idea of what to look for in a
fancy scheduling tool.
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тАО09-28-2006 01:36 PM
тАО09-28-2006 01:36 PM
Re: OpenVMS Job Scheduler - Recomendations
We run the CA Scheduler in Server mode on all four production nodes.
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Unicenter Job Management V3.0
(C) 2002, Computer Associates International, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
SCHEDULE>
This version 3.0 is okay. The prevsion had realy problems with waited DIO being generated and some bugs when shadow merges were in progress.
I do not endorse the product, but it services us satisfactorily.
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тАО09-28-2006 07:36 PM
тАО09-28-2006 07:36 PM
Re: OpenVMS Job Scheduler - Recomendations
It runs o.k. and frees us from the burden to program some DCL to specify more complex scheduling requirements. If you have dependancies between jobs, esp. for jobs on other systems, a commercial product may be better suited.
CRON uses the standard batch system for actually running the jobs and is clusterware, in that a CRON daemon runs on every node (you specify), synchronized via a lock, and one of them doing the work.
You find the PCSI kit for CRON on the actual freeware disk.
regards Kalle
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тАО09-28-2006 11:25 PM
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Re: OpenVMS Job Scheduler - Recomendations
I use a slightly modified version of resubmit.com and a separate routine resubmit_date.com for calculating the resubmit date which copes with 'every_week' and 'third Monday of the month' etc. See http://dcl.openvms.org/
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тАО09-29-2006 02:12 AM
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тАО09-29-2006 03:01 AM
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тАО09-29-2006 06:10 AM
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Re: OpenVMS Job Scheduler - Recomendations
We use JSS from Icam for scheduling and have been very happy with it.
http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/mop/mop_PartnerDetails_IDX/1,2718,6308,00.html
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тАО09-29-2006 03:51 PM
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