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geir_2
Super Advisor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Kalle,

Thanks for the answer. It means:

1) I install OpenVMS with help from a bootable CD (OpenVMS binaries 6.2 ..)

2) When VMS is up and running, then I can use vmsinstall if I want to install layered products (DECnet, TCP/IP ,...)

Geir


PS:
Will the installation ask for DECnet and/or IP-address? Maybe I must include the address with use of ucx and ncp. Thanks.

geir_2
Super Advisor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Hi,
Thanks. Is license PAK part of the bootable CD?

Geir

PS:
I noticed that POSIX is part of the bootable CD when I installed it, for some months ago.
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Geir,

on backing up your system:

$backup/image/log/veri dka0: mka500:ws99.bck/save

Assuming dka0: is your system disk, this is NOT the best way.

Even booted minimal. the system disk has several files OPENed for write.
Those are NOT guaranteed to be good in your backup!
If you HAVE (got) a bootable CD (you should anyway before you can continue), then it is best to BOOT from that CD. You will get a little menu, which also has the option DCL.
Choose that, mount dka0: and mka0:, and NOW do your backup. DKA0: is now just a data disk, and your backup will be wholly consistent.

Should you decide you want to backup a LIVE system disk, then MINIMISE any activity on the system (not too hard on a station) and modify your backup command:
$backup/image/log/veri dka0: mka500:ws99.bck/save /IGNORE=INTERLOCK
Without activity on the system, your open files are not being modified, and will end up OK in your backup. (But is IS officially unsupported!)
Without the /IGNORE, any open-for-write files will be ignored, and those include your authorisation files...

Success.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Martin Vorlaender
Honored Contributor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Geir,

the license should be already installed when you install the software kit, as the installation procedure normally contains an Installation Verification Procedure (IVP) which more often than not runs the product - which requires a license.

So, the normal course of events should be:
- Read the Release Notes/Installation Guide.
- Install the license.
- Install the stoftware.

cu,
Martin
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Geir,

on backing up your system:

$backup/image/log/veri dka0: mka500:ws99.bck/save

Assuming dka0: is your system disk, this is NOT the best way.

Even booted minimal, the system disk has several files OPENed for write.
Those are now guaranteed NOT to be in your backup!
If you HAVE (got) a bootable CD (you should anyway before you can continue), then it is best to BOOT from that CD. You will get a little menu, which also has the option DCL.
Choose that, mount dka0: and mka0:, and NOW do your backup. DKA0: is now just a data disk, and your backup will be wholly consistent.

Should you decide you want to backup a LIVE system disk, then MINIMISE any activity on the system (not too hard on a station) and modify your backup command:
$backup/image/log/veri dka0: mka500:ws99.bck/save /IGNORE=INTERLOCK
Without activity on the system, your open files are not being modified, and ignoring interlock will do 'the best it can', and they will end up OK in your backup. (But is IS officially unsupported!)
Without the /IGNORE, any open-for-write files will be not backupped, and those include your authorisation files...

Success.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Barry Alford
Frequent Advisor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Hi Geir,

The Licence PAK is normally supplied on paper, giving details like:

Issuer: DEC
Authorization: XXX-IL-1995AUG24-NNNN
Product Name: FORTRAN
Producer: DEC
Units: 100
Version: 0.0
Release Date: (none)
PAK Termination Date: (none)
Availability: 0
Activity: 000000100
Options: RESERVE_UNITS
Hardware ID:


You can use LMF (License Management Facility) to enter these details -- see your documentation (or online:
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc)
geir_2
Super Advisor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Hi,
I'm backing up a workstation, and it's only one user logged into the system + some programs. As far as I know, the system is not working with open files.

Will it still be a problem if I missed the ingore=interlock?

Geir

PS:
I seems to be better to boot from a CD, and then use the backup command. So If you suggest to do that i will do it. Bit then I must interrupt the backup process.
Rob Kersey
Advisor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Geir,

To back up our system disk we do the following:

1. Shutdown the Alpha and boot from the bootable O/S CD-ROM.

>>> BOOT DQA0 (Assuming DQA0 is the CD/DVD Rom)

2. Choose option 7 from the menu options. 'Execute DCL Commands & Procedures'.

3. Mount the disk to be backed up;

$ MOUNT/OVER=ID $1$DGA10: (Assuming this is your system disk)

4. Initialise the DLT tape.

$ INIT MKA600: SYSDSK

5. Backup the volume in question;

$ BACK/LOG/IMAGE $1$DGA10: MKA600:SYSDSK.BCK /SAV

6. When finished dismount the tape and disk;

$ DISMOUNT MKA600:
$ DISMOUNT $1$DGA10:

7. Issue a logout command to exit from the session. ($LOG)

8. When presented with the menu again select option 8 'Exit', to get back to the three chevron prompt.

9. Boot the alpha backup normally.

HTH.
Martin Vorlaender
Honored Contributor

Re: OpenVMS installation

Geir,

>>>
As far as I know, the system is not working with open files.
<<<

To see which files are open, do a

$ SHOW DEVICE SYS$SYSDEVICE: /FILES

I'm sure you'll get a looong list even on an idle system.

cu,
Martin
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: OpenVMS installation

> The Licence PAK is normally supplied on paper, [...]

If you can't find the original paper PAKs,
you can do a "LICENSE ISSUE" to reproduce the
PAK data. See the HELP. If you make a copy
of the license data base file and specify the
copy (/DATABASE=filespec), you can avoid
cluttering the license data base history, and
obviate the "LICENSE ENABLE" command which
you would otherwise need to recover from the
"LICENSE ISSUE" command.

The default data base file is
"SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB".