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тАО11-02-2004 12:50 AM
тАО11-02-2004 12:50 AM
The problem is they say it can only be installed using DECWindows and it has to sit on an ODS-5 disk!
If there's anyone out there with experience of Oracle 9i and would be willing to discuss this, please email me at ratkinson@tbs-ltd.co.uk.
Thanks, Robert.
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тАО11-02-2004 03:10 AM
тАО11-02-2004 03:10 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
Which version of VMS are you running?
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тАО11-02-2004 03:39 AM
тАО11-02-2004 03:39 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
Sounds reasonable. Too much trouble keeping the nuance differences straight (connect internal -vs- / as sysdba, demise of svrmgrl, statspack -vs- utlXstat, RAC, pga_aggregate tuning,...).
>> The problem is they say it can only be installed using DECWindows
Not so much DECwindows as an X display.
As long as you can define DECW$DISPLAY to some willing host (linux/unix/vms host or a Windoze box with excurstion or sygwin or such) then you should be in good shape.
Remember to always test the display with a simple DECW$CLOCK or Xeyes before tryin an install.
>> it has to sit on an ODS-5 disk!
Anything stopping you from going there?
What VMS version are you currently on?
>> If there's anyone out there with experience of Oracle 9i
It's out there. It is mature. It is required to be properly supported. It is where the momentum is. You want to go there. :-)
fwiw,
Hein.
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тАО11-02-2004 04:07 AM
тАО11-02-2004 04:07 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
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тАО11-02-2004 04:13 AM
тАО11-02-2004 04:13 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
This table list the operating system software requirements for Oracle9i products.
Table 1-3 Operating System Software Requirements
Software Requirements
Operating System
HP OpenVMS version 7.3
Oracle Net Requirements
Oracle Net on HP OpenVMS is developed and certified using Hewlett-Packard TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS (UCX). If you wish to use the TCP/IP protocol adapter for Oracle Net, then you should have Version 5.1 ECO 4 or higher of TCP/IP Services for HP OpenVMS Alpha installed. TCP/IP protocol stacks from other vendors may work with Oracle, but customers use these products at their own risk. Any TCP/IP problems that cannot be reproduced using TCP/IP Services for HP OpenVMS Alpha will simply be referred to the TCP/IP vendor.
Vendor-provided protocol services are usually upward compatible, so that existing applications will continue to work without modification. Thus, later releases of TCP/IP are upward compatible with Oracle Net, provided that the vendor-specified Application Programming Interface (API) does not change with new releases.
Window Manager
X-Windows must be installed on the system from which the Oracle Universal Installer is run. Use any Hewlett-Packard-supported X-Windows server (for example, Excursion, dtwm, twm, mwm) that supports Motif.
Also, the disks on which the Oracle code tree resides must be formatted in Files-11 On-Disk Structure Level 5 (ODS-5) format. This is the disk to which the VMS logicals ora_root, ora_rootdir, and oracle_home will point. The directory that is referenced by these logicals is the parent directory for all Oracle RDBMS software, such as APACHE, CTX, INSTALL, NETCONFIG, RDBMS, UTIL, and so forth. The disks on which Oracle database files reside can be formatted as either ODS-2 or ODS-5.
This information is in:
http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/html/B10508_01/planning.htm#1104554
but you need a ORACLE user to access them.
best regards.
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тАО11-02-2004 07:35 AM
тАО11-02-2004 07:35 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
Just a note that only the "code tree" for Oracle code must be ODS-5 - the tablespaces themselves can be left on ODS-2 disks.
We have initialized a disk to ODS-5 for this testing and have no plans to change the ODS-2 structure on any of our other disks.
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тАО11-02-2004 08:55 AM
тАО11-02-2004 08:55 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
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тАО11-02-2004 09:10 AM
тАО11-02-2004 09:10 AM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
one comment on the requirements quoted earlier in the thread. If support is an issue, you do <
As far as ODS-5 is concerned, you will need it in more and more places and e.g. having the system disk on ODS-5 is no problem at all.
Greetings, Martin
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тАО11-02-2004 08:32 PM
тАО11-02-2004 08:32 PM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
The VMS version will eventually be 7.3-2, so not problems there.
The annoying thing about this is that we only require the client, no databases, so that we can talk to Oracle on a Windows box.
I know what your thinking; why not just use Attunity or something similar, but this is a black-box solution and we have no control over it.
Reading your responses, I'm not so apprehensive about converting to ODS-5 as I was. We have a DS10 test bed that I can try this all out on anyway, so !hopefully! we'll get any problems sorted before doing this on the production system.
Robert.
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тАО11-02-2004 09:46 PM
тАО11-02-2004 09:46 PM
Re: Oracle 9i VMS Installation
One thing to watch when you carry out your upgrades is the order you do them as it affects the Oracle code tree re-link with regard to Java RTE - even if you don't intend to use the Oracle Java tools.
OpenVMS V7.3 & V7.3-1 is supplied with Java RTE V1.1.8 (which is now ancient and has limited support). The OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 upgrade strips out this default version of Java RTE leaving you to install the later version of your choice - 1.3.1 or 1.4.2. Unfortunately Oracle V8i, when it runs the code tree rebuild, required RTE V1.1.8 or 1.2.n and the whole code tree rebuild will fail if neither RTE are present. Oracle 9i will work with either 1.1.8 or 1.3.1.
We have both Oracle 8i and 9i based applications so are running both versions. When we first ran the 7.3-2 upgrade we had to locate a copy of the Java RTE 1.1.8 kit and re-install it along side 1.3.1 & 1.4.2 (it is available on the HP web site - if you look hard enough :o). Oracle 8i is now happy but unfortunatley if 9i find the earlier RTE it uses that rather than the later one. Ho hum :o)
BTW. You can purchase extended support for 8i if you really really want to keep it. We are pressing hard to get our 8i apps upgraded to 9i but the management inertia is crippling :o(
If you have any other issues just post another message. There seems to be a lot of really good advise on this forum.
hth
Robin Smith, ML (London)