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Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

 
Jan van den Ende
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Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Robert,

>>>
I can see from the batch logfile that the process was at a WAIT statement at the same time the BUGCHECK ocurred.
<<<

Please DO realise that batch job logs are only flushed ever so often.
A killed job often does NOT get the chance to write the last part of the logfile.

So, concluding that the process deletion happened during WAIT is by no means warranted.

Just my EUR 0,02

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Robert Atkinson
Respected Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Am aware of log flushing - set to 5 seconds on all of our processes anyway - but the termination time and the date/time in the log file coincide to show the process was running a WAIT.

Rob.
Jon Pinkley
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Rob,

RE:"Am aware of log flushing - set to 5 seconds on all of our processes anyway - but the termination time and the date/time in the log file coincide to show the process was running a WAIT."

Sorry, even though I am not from Missouri, please show me. Where did you get the termination time? My guess is the job completion time from the retained queue info. What do you mean by "date/time in the log file". To me these are both ambiguous.

And quite a lot can happen in 5 seconds.

Jon
it depends
Robert Atkinson
Respected Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

"Completed 27-DEC-2006 18:50:12.88 on queue BETA$OPERATIONS"

ROB$ type gbsinvrun.log;997
$! RUNNING SYLOGIN.COM
$!
.......
27-DEC:18:48:45> $ DELETE /LOG SYX:TMPLOC.INT;*
%DELETE-I-FILDEL, SY1:[LIVE.DAT]TMPLOC.INT;1 deleted (290 blocks)
27-DEC:18:48:46> $ COPY /LOG SYX:INVTEL.WRK DEV$INTAREA:*.TW3_22J7261
%COPY-S-COPIED, SY8:[LIVE.DAT]INVTEL.WRK;1 copied to DEV$INTAREA_ROOT:[20080122]INVTEL.TW3_22J7261;1 (11281 blocks)
27-DEC:18:48:46> $ DELETE /LOG SYX:INVTEL.WRK;*
%DELETE-I-FILDEL, SY8:[LIVE.DAT]INVTEL.WRK;1 deleted (70035 blocks)
27-DEC:18:48:46> $!
27-DEC:18:48:46> $ WAIT 00:10:00
Jon Pinkley
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Thanks,

I assume there was also a bugcheck and it had its finger pointed at the DBSINVRUN job?

I have to agree that the log as shown seems to indicate that the process was in a DCL wait at the time.

Is anything throwing Special Kernel Mode AST's at the process? Does DCL have some file open that has RMS global buffers associated (I'm reaching here).

Hein, if you are still reading this thread, do you have any idea how a process could be generating an RMS bugcheck while it is in a WAIT if it isn't related to exec or kernel mode AST's being involved?

Jon
it depends
Jon Pinkley
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

I had a typo, I meant GBSINVRUN not DBSINVRUN.
it depends
Willem Grooters
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

What follows WAIT? It could be the process is deleted AFTER wait and before the buffers are flushed (a crash can ahppen within 5 seconds :)
Willem Grooters
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Willem,

In that case the wait is not working correctly. He asked to wait 10 minutes ...

Wim
Wim
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Rob,

Is the job keeping a task-to-task open ?
If it doesn't receives any information for 75 seconds, the remote stuff stops (75 coming from our already gone 6.2 systems). May be this caused the bugcheck because the abort is about 60 seconds after the wait started.

Fwiw

Wim
Wim
Robert Atkinson
Respected Contributor

Re: Processes Mysteriously Being Deleted

Presumably you're talking about DECnet or something?

Nothing like that happens in the process.