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тАО06-27-2006 01:58 AM
тАО06-27-2006 01:58 AM
I'm also chasing this via offical means, but that's takng a looong time.
Is anyone out there running this config?
thanks in advance!
REGards.
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тАО06-27-2006 04:24 AM
тАО06-27-2006 04:24 AM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
BACKUP will work fine with FC attached tapes as long as OpenVMS can configure the device. It does a persistent binding managed in SYS$DEVICES.DAT based on the drive's serial numer, but there was a problem in the initial release which required a reboot to make the device available, if I remember correctly.
Unfortunately, you can't write such a file to CD-ROM and reboot ;-) That has been fixed later on - it is always a good idea to have a locally-attached disk with an operating system that is current on patch levels.
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тАО06-27-2006 02:20 PM
тАО06-27-2006 02:20 PM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
The problem is that trusty old VMS backup seems to have no way of communicating with the library changer itself. There seem to be some enterprise-level products from HP that can do this, but for extra $$$$.
If you compare to a product like NetBackup, you can devide the slots into groups, tell the backup to use a certain slot, etc. No can do with VMSBACKUP.
I tried my Quantum library on my DS20 and wasn't impressed. Aside from seeing 2 SCSI devices (I know you are talking about a SAN), it wouldn't do anything until I manually loaded (through the front panel) a tape.
Very useless.
I would say something derogatory about VMS here, but I think I might get linched....
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тАО06-27-2006 06:42 PM
тАО06-27-2006 06:42 PM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
This because we have (working) backups scripts running and didn't want a new system for SAN backups.
I you take SAN backups, I wonder :
1) how do you know that there are no open files
2) how do you know that no files were deleted/created during backup (disk must be stable)
3) how do you test that required files are present (e.g. db dumps)
We have all these controls (and others) in place and wouldn't like to loose them.
Wim
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тАО06-27-2006 08:04 PM
тАО06-27-2006 08:04 PM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
V7.3-1 does talk to FC tapes, perhaps not as well as v7.3-2, but we can't upgrade just yet.
We use the MRU product (robot commands etc.), with some command procedures - works o.k.
Our use of the SAN capability is more for making the library/drive available to multiple systems & we still drive backup via the host, not within the SAN.
My key question is can vms 7.3-1 recognize a SDLT600 & init tapes upon it...
Cheers.
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тАО06-27-2006 11:10 PM
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тАО06-27-2006 11:30 PM
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Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
Any price indication ?
I could be li(y)nched too but something is missing in VMS.
Wim
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тАО06-28-2006 12:47 AM
тАО06-28-2006 12:47 AM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
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тАО06-28-2006 07:06 AM
тАО06-28-2006 07:06 AM
Re: Q:OpenVMS v7.3-1 & SDLT600 (MSL6026) on SAN for VMS backup
MRU communicates via REQUESTs (to OPCOM).
Catch those requests and reply to them.
Poor-mans solution:
Start LAT.
Create an LTA device.
Enable that LTA device for the TAPES Opcom messages.
Launch a detached proces that periodically (less than your acceptable tape wait period) reads the LTA.
If MRU message, REPLY to it with relevant command.
hth
Proost.
Have one on me.
jpe
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тАО06-29-2006 04:28 AM
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